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While I agree that the instructors should be covering all the material or otherwise be reported, I don't want to turn this thread into a discussion of reporting instructors. I meant my posts merely as an example of how it is possible to go to the class, pay attention, have an interest in learning the material, and still come away with an incomplete understanding due to poor instruction.


As for the reporting, the instructor for the first class made it abundantly clear that this was one of his final classes, maybe the final one. He expounded on his health concerns for a while. I don't want that to sound callous, I did feel for his plight, but then again, that's not the subject of the class. In any case, I believe that particular problem took care of itself. I don't believe that instructor is still teaching.

As for the second, I'm not going to be the one to make a case out of it. The instructor is a 28-year veteran DPS trooper. I find it patently unrealistic to think that there would be any real inquiry. In an ideal world, that wouldn't enter into it, but we all know this isn't an ideal world.

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The second class was not much better. The instructor, a retired DPS and current Deputy, was anti-CHL and said so. The operative feeling was one of being rushed. The class was completed in record time; I doubt it was more than 6 hours, including range time.

There was discussion of conflict resolution, but nothing on what to carry, how to carry it, and so on.

The changes regarding carrying in churches, amusement parks, and hospitals were skipped. CPRC 83.001 was not mentioned at all.

The point is, if you were lucky enough to get in a good class with a good instructor, all of this was covered. However, for those that did not get a good class with a good instructor did not hear all of this covered in their classes. More often than not, if someone asks, 'Didn't they cover that in your class?', I have to answer in the negative.

I was lucky in that I had discovered this forum before I went to either class. I had read enough to realize when something was being skipped or given an incomplete covering. I made it a point to tell other students about this forum, and hopefully they have filled in the gaps as I did. There are obviously classes out there that are less then stellar, and it isn't ALWAYS that the student simply did not pay attention.

I've attended two separate CHL classes, one for myself and tagging-along with a family member for the other.

I thought the material was poorly presented overall in both of these classes. Here's a few examples (but by no means a comprehensive listing of all that was poorly done:

In the first class I went to, the instructor took around two hours on what I'd describe as "show and tell", in which he brought a dozen or so pistols he owned and showed them. In all of this time and with all of these pistols/revolvers, not once did he discuss the merits or failings of any of them for the purpose of concealed carry, or really anything other than how cool they were.

He did demonstrate a 30.06 sign, a 51% sign, and the "blue sign" (unlicensed possession sign), but did not do a proper job in describing the differences between the signs or much about where the signs might be encountered.

He did not say a single word about CPRC 83.001. There was also no discussion about conflict resolution.

The entire class was muddled and unclear. I was fortunate enough to have already discovered this forum before attending class, so it was much less confusing to me. I did make it a point to tell others in the class about this forum.