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by E.Marquez
Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:09 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13052

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

Purplehood wrote:I think he is agreeing with you, but not sure.
I think so to, but as you stated.. I'm not sure :headscratch :thewave

Reading the motion order and the affidavit.. and ASSUMING it is accurate, factual and not intently misleading on part of the government’s case. Mr Copeland got what he deserved.
I don’t like some of the grand jury nonsense with Agent Jones and the prosecutor games with implying Mr Copeland had violated , or was in violation of federal law, then playing it off by saying.. "he is not being investigated"
by E.Marquez
Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:53 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13052

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

b322da wrote:I think the Court's order says something else,
What are your referring to? Something else? Something other then what?
b322da wrote:some of us ought to exercise a little restraint in our automatic and immediate anti-government ranting before the facts get out.
Who or what post are you referring to?
by E.Marquez
Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:31 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Long Arm of the government-ATF
Replies: 79
Views: 13052

Re: Long Arm of the government-ATF

Hoi Polloi wrote:
So the issue here isn't about illegals--it is about straw purchases and about a seller who seemingly knew he was involved in one, but went through with the sale.
I said that on another forum when I posted the affidavit http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/ATF ... ndCase.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And was flamed for it. There was / is more than one issue going on in this event..
The prime one is.. Straw purchase... the second is an illegal that was used in this bust, and not prosecuted (that we know of) for his part in the straw purchase, nor deported for being in the US illegally.
I stand by my opinion based on what info is available.. Mr Copeland knew what he was doing was a skirting of the law; he manipulated the events of the deal to get around the illegal events that were in motion.
Read the actual affidavit, read para 12-14 closely.

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