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by baldeagle
Thu May 28, 2015 9:29 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 910 Conference Committee
Replies: 518
Views: 147383

Re: HB 910 Conference Committee

locke_n_load wrote:So, I have a question now that it looks like we may get OC without the Huffines/Dutton.
I am walking down the street, pistol in a holster on my hip, I have a CHL and am Open Carrying, and just walking, minding my own business. Can a cop come up and ask for my license? Would I legally have to give it to him? Can I tell him no, that I have a CHL but don't wish to give it to him, that it's included in the 4th amendment? I know that the penal code says that I must produce my license if I am concealed carrying, just wondering how all this would go with OC.
Thanks.
If this happened to me, I would be polite, but I would ask the officer if he had an articulable suspicion that I was either committing or about to commit a crime. If he said, yes, you are openly carrying a weapon, I would say, that is not a crime. What is your suspicion based upon? If he didn't have another articulable suspicion beside my carrying a weapon, I would ask him if I was free to go. If he said yes, I would thank him and walk away. If he said no, I would ask if I'm being detained. If he said yes, I would ask him to please contact his supervisor and ask him to come to our location. Then we would do the dance again. If they cuffed me, I would ask them what crime I am suspected of committing, etc., etc.

The reality is that if officers want to make up AS, it's not that hard. You were acting suspiciously. You hand was on your gun, etc., etc. The only defense you would have is video of the actions that led to the interaction. Without that, it's the officer's word against yours, and he wins.

I would go through all this, because I want to educate the officer, not because I'm obstreperous.
by baldeagle
Thu May 28, 2015 9:14 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: HB 910 Conference Committee
Replies: 518
Views: 147383

Re: HB 910 Conference Committee

ATX117 wrote:
thechl wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
thechl wrote:Didn't we just celebrate the passing of SB273? Isn't that a bill that merely reiterates current Texas law, but then adds a penalty because municipalities are ignoring that law with impunity?
Not really. There has never been a prohibition on governmental entities posting 30.06 signs; they were simply unenforceable. Now it is unlawful to do so.

Chas.
This site has been an enormously educational resource that I have enjoyed over the last three legislative sessions. Thank you, not only for the website, but also for the insight you freely share.

And thank you to all the members here who also share their knowledge, wit and frustration, usually with decorum.
:thumbs2:

I second that. I just joined today. Been reading it a bit for the last week. Most of the last 30-45 day that I have been watching the legislature I've been on another forum. It was very informative but I have picked up some insight here that has rounded out my understanding of what is going on with HB910 and SB11.

Since I just popped up out of nowhere let me say that I live in Austin and I've had a CHL since it's early days.
Welcome. Hope you decide to stay.

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