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anygunanywhere wrote:

Liberty wrote: Lets see Supreme Court rules unanimously that the RKBA is an individual right.

Liberty, with all due respect, the Heller decision has so far done nothing for our second amendment rights, nothing for the residents of DC, the DC mayor and council thugs have dug their heels in deeper and no court seems to want to sanction them severely.

I understand the point you made with your post. The Heller folks have put up a bloody good fight but so far all of their victories are on paper. Come to think about it, our 2A rights pretty much are mostly on paper.

Anygunanywhere

But its a huge undeniable admission that its not a collective right. Still i understand the direct effect was pretty minor, however I do believe that pandoras box has been opened and the Bradys aren't going to to be able to stuff this idea of the RKBA back into the box. This is just the beggining ... There are going to be more court cases and How much you want to bet we will only continue to make gains?

I moved to Texas 20 years ago from a state that openly bragged that it had the toughest gun laws in the nation. I happened to have had a handgun license at the time. I was shocked to find out that there was no means for me to legally carry in the State of Texas. Today I can legally carry in most states, in fact I've legally carried in a dozen states. That's a lot of progress from my perspective even though right now it is almost impossible to get a permit from my original home state.

mr.72 wrote:

srothstein wrote: I just keep remembering how long it took to get us in this mess we live in now, and it will take almost as long to straighten it out.

I don't think it will take nearly as long to straighten it out. And it's not just about gun control but about control over every aspect of our lives and the erosion of freedom that began with the industrial revolution.

But I don't think we are on the path to straightening it out yet. We are just rearranging our last two or three pawns on the chess board. We gain ground in one area, lose more ground in another. Save one pawn, lose two.

I won't elaborate any further.

Gee it seems to me that over the past 15 years we have made quite a bit of progress and I cant think of many setbacks...
Lets see Supreme Court rules unanimously that the RKBA is an individual right
Texas citizens after over a hundred year ban gain the right to discretely carry.
The Assault Weapons Ban runs out and isn't renewed.
Texas gain the right to carry in cars while on the road with clearly defined rules on our side.
We have gained almost unquestionable rights to defend ourselves if we are attacked. (Castle Doctrine)
It has become illegal for citys and countys to make stricter gun laws.
The SCOTUS is telling DC to knock it off with silly restrictions.
Seems as though they are making more and better guns.
Donkeys have to put up these big ugly honkin' signs to keep us out of their establishments

Now please tell me how where we have lost ground over the last few years. I don't understand. Cause it seems every time I turn around I see just a little more progress. Sometimes its just a little thing like a price reduction for veterans, other times its something huge like a Supreme Court decision. While there may be a few step backs I honestly cant think of one for the last 20 years all I can remember is progress.