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oljames3 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 24, 2019 9:33 am ANALYSIS: Michael Drejka Guilty of Manslaughter
Attorney Andrew Branca:

OK, folks, here’s a somewhat more in-depth commentary on Drejka’s conviction last night:

Last night “handicap parking spot shooter” Michael Drejka was found guilty of manslaughter, as charged, for the shooting death of Markeis McGlockton. The verdict was returned quickly last night, after the jury had deliberated only a few hours.

https://lawofselfdefense.com/analysis-m ... slaughter/

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bblhd672 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:26 pm

mojo84 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:58 pm This thread prompted me to do some research. It turned out to be quite entertaining to search on YouTube for "illegal handicap parking" and watch some of the videos.

Be aware, you'll hear some words that may hurt your sensitive ears. That's why I didn't post a link. I'm a little surprised there aren't more instances of things getting out of hand.

Hmmm...a volunteer handicapped parking monitor program in Harris County, TX.

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rotor wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:26 pm

Paladin wrote: ↑Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:16 pm

rotor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:02 pm

Paladin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:43 pm

rotor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:08 pm Old guy (shooter) turns out is 47 which I don't classify as old. When you have a history of threatening people with a gun because of a handicap parking violation and then eventually shoot and kill one of them you are guilty of murder as far as I am concerned. Nobody can convince me that this crazy shooter was not guilty of murder. Give him a chance and he will be doing the same thing again. This is not stand your ground. This is incite and kill because you can.

Very much disagree. The "history" you are taking as fact is as quoted by low life that feel they have a right to park in handicapped spaces. Their words are self-serving at best. I have shown Jacobs to be a liar. If Drejka had "incite and kill" all masterfully planned as you suggest, Drejka would not have ended up attacked from behind and only drawn his weapon while laying on the ground. If he wanted to kill McGlockton, Drejka would have shot McGlockton more than once. Drejka fired one shot. Single gunshot wounds are often survivable. Drejka let McGlockton retreat. Drejka never layed a hand on Jacobs.

Those are the facts. This was a dispute that ended badly. Don't let liars and fake news make you believe differently.

The shooter threatened a guy named Kelly for the same type of incident in the past. One does not patrol handicap parking spots, fight with people that are illegally parked and threaten to shoot. Neither of us know what is in his heart but when one repeatedly does the same thing and threaten people with a firearm I look at them as deranged. Obviously the DA in this case agreed with the shooter but if it looks like a duck and you know the rest. I don't know what liars you are talking about.

Kelly was another guy who liked to park illegally in handicapped spots and argued with Drejka when Drejka said something about it. Drejka was not prosecuted for anything and Kelly is quiet on the details. Who knows exactly what happened? It is clear that Kelly isn't going to confess he threatened to beat up or kill Drejka... but it wouldn't be out of character for a criminal to do so.

Please read the articles posted. Jacob's claimed the handicapped spot was the only place she could park... of course the video shows there is plenty of parking available. Jacob's is a liar. Kelly is a confessed troublemaker and honestly I don't believe him either. Do you think a guy who would do what Kelly did would think twice about lying? Don't trust Kelly's statement blindly. Take it for what it is, a self serving statement.

I guess we will never know for sure. We each have our opinion. We each think we are right. Neither of us I hope are going to be armed handicapped parking guards. Something big time wrong with Drejka in my opinion. Not just a normal 47 year old man. Too quick to pull his gun and shoot, at least in my opinion. No business patrolling handicap parking spots with a gun. But, DA or whatever let him go free and that's the way it is.

rotor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:02 pm

Paladin wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:43 pm

rotor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:08 pm Old guy (shooter) turns out is 47 which I don't classify as old. When you have a history of threatening people with a gun because of a handicap parking violation and then eventually shoot and kill one of them you are guilty of murder as far as I am concerned. Nobody can convince me that this crazy shooter was not guilty of murder. Give him a chance and he will be doing the same thing again. This is not stand your ground. This is incite and kill because you can.

Very much disagree. The "history" you are taking as fact is as quoted by low life that feel they have a right to park in handicapped spaces. Their words are self-serving at best. I have shown Jacobs to be a liar. If Drejka had "incite and kill" all masterfully planned as you suggest, Drejka would not have ended up attacked from behind and only drawn his weapon while laying on the ground. If he wanted to kill McGlockton, Drejka would have shot McGlockton more than once. Drejka fired one shot. Single gunshot wounds are often survivable. Drejka let McGlockton retreat. Drejka never layed a hand on Jacobs.

Those are the facts. This was a dispute that ended badly. Don't let liars and fake news make you believe differently.

The shooter threatened a guy named Kelly for the same type of incident in the past. One does not patrol handicap parking spots, fight with people that are illegally parked and threaten to shoot. Neither of us know what is in his heart but when one repeatedly does the same thing and threaten people with a firearm I look at them as deranged. Obviously the DA in this case agreed with the shooter but if it looks like a duck and you know the rest. I don't know what liars you are talking about.

rotor wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:08 pm Old guy (shooter) turns out is 47 which I don't classify as old. When you have a history of threatening people with a gun because of a handicap parking violation and then eventually shoot and kill one of them you are guilty of murder as far as I am concerned. Nobody can convince me that this crazy shooter was not guilty of murder. Give him a chance and he will be doing the same thing again. This is not stand your ground. This is incite and kill because you can.

WTR wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:55 pm I was confined to wheel chair until my brain rewired and I learned to walk again. I know how much my Wife and Mom needed to Utilize the HC spaces when they took me somewhere. I have politely asked if a person knew they were in a HC space. I’ve also informed an able bodied driver that it was illegal to leave grandma in the car while they utilized a HC space to run into the store. I’ve even had an idiot flash his gun at me and tell me he was a man and did whatever he liked. I’ve always been polite though.

Markeis was a gentle giant. Markeis, he was a man above all men..

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Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:35 pm I don't think that is going to be a positive for him.

philip964 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:40 pm Did I understand the woman was in the car?

I have waited in handicapped spots tow away zones etc. when parking was limited, figuring if a handicapped driver ever approached I could quickly move. Was I unreasonable?

[Jacobs]The certified nursing assistant told the newspaper she parked in the handicap spot because the parking lot was packed. Surveillance video, however, showed several open parking spaces in front of the store prior to the deadly shooting.