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kauboy

But they don't succeed. You will never be able to stop the attempt, but stopping it before it impacts others is definitely made easier with a firearm.

kauboy

I agree, but disarming a populus is not one of them.

kauboy

"could sometimes succeed"?:???: Well, I guess I can't argue with that. That will always be the case, regardless of our self protection habits. But I would much rather have the odds be in the good guys' favor, wouldn't you?

kauboy

seamusTX wrote:
kauboy wrote:Even if ... everyone could have a gun, do you think that 5~6 terrorists with guns would stand a chance against 50+ passengers with guns?
First off, no more than a few percent of passengers would fly with firearms. Even in states where you don't need a license, few carry.

Maybe with the general nervousness about flying these days, people who don't normally carry would carry on planes. Armed, nervous shooters who don't practice often. Wouldn't that be peachy?

Terrorists or criminals who plan their tactics can hold off far larger numbers even of police or military personnel. The passengers would not be organized, and it might be difficult to tell who the terrorists were.

You're right, though. The Sept. 11 attacks were planned to exploit the security situtation in effect at that time. If passengers were armed, they would have used different tactics.

It looks like blowing up the plane in the air is the goal now, not hijacking it.

- Jim

Your basing your debate on the idea that we would pull a 2A change now. Thats not what I was suggesting. Like you, I think that would be bad. My point was, if we had never bastardized the 2A in the first place, the majority of those passengers would indeed be carrying and would know exactly how to use their gun. With those folks, I would trust my life. And those terrorists would have shat themselves before meeting Allah.

Thats why I threw in that last line about a CHL/Air Marshall only policy.

kauboy

Even if the 2nd were interpreted as it should be, and everyone could have a gun, do you think that 5~6 terrorists with guns would stand a chance against 50+ passengers with guns? That's simple math to me. Would they even try if they knew the high potential for perforation?

I would completely agree with a CHL/Air Marshall only rule though, since they are property of a private company.

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