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Sugar Land Chuck,

Happy to have another from our small part of town.

I see several LEOs and soon to be former LEOs each week. They are salt of the earth guys in my opinion, and I think humanity is well represented by them when you look beyond the veneer. That said, I feel safer around them than I do driving in the Houston traffic each day. That doesn't mean that I will deliberately be in front of their weapon, or that i will will pull onto the freeway in front of a speeding semi, yet if I must do one or the other, I know which I will choose under my lesser of two evils principle.

BTW, lest anyone misunderstand, I am actually finding a way to enjoy this conversation. Thank you, Excaliber!

Thanks for your replies gentlemen though I am not sure where we are now going with this thread. I always check my holsters and weapons before they go out the door of my home. I would presume an officer would do so also since his life might depend on the proper draw and firearm operation. As for dis-arming that officer because he goes into a crowded property, I would say that I don't much like 30.06 limitation, and I can't call for such a thing for those who serve.

Good leadership is about being able to make tough choices even when they are not popular, especially to yourself. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils without being paralyzed by second guessing yourself. The OP made a good choice when he moved rather than sitting with anxiety while eating. No one was harmed and he resumed his meal though he suffered some moments of angst. I just can't get myself from there all the way to disarming the police when there is a crowded civilian business.

Guys,

If we, the pro 2A rights, carry in a holster is safe, guns don't shoot themselves group can't seem to agree on the safety of an LEO carry weapon, how can we expect the anti-carry people to not feel the way THEY do? Does anyone here know of a verifiable story of a gun in a holster going off by itself? If the maintained and holstered firearm in my otherwise empty pocket is going to discharge by itself damaging my leg or knee, then perhaps I should reconsider my CHL decision. If the IWB holster on my hip will not protect me from shooting myself while walking or sitting, then perhaps I have been wrong in my beliefs.

I am not here to be PC; if we are just pro constitution for the 2nd amendment, but reject the 1st, how are we honest and not disingenuous? I absolutely respect someone's right to disagree with me. They can even call me a bad name, and I will live, but that is not the point I make. Are we ourselves safe in everyday carry or are we not? Can a LEO safely carry amongst the populace or can he not. If we here on this forum cannot believe what we have proclaimed, how can we expect opponents to believe us?

No vetting is done on this forum regarding membership application. Trolls can come here, antis, bad guys posting scenarios to learn how good guys might defend, it is wide open for seemingly innocuous posts which have a larger meaning, yet not so for others who respond to the bigger picture. If I am not to be allowed to point out potential, then you guys don't need anything I might say, and I can spend even more time in service to the work I do for my country. Elsewhere folks in high places appreciate my opinions.

Well it is obvious to me that many of you have not been listening to the media-confirmed wisdom of the Brady Bunch anti-firearm knowledge. Firearms always go off by themselves, especially if an innocent person is in the line of fire. There is no safe firearm. Why are you even carrying something which is so unpredictably dangerous?