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by mamabearCali
Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:41 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Target respectfully requests that you shop unarmed
Replies: 101
Views: 17746

Re: Target respectfully requests that you shop unarmed

myntalfloss wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:

I'm with you on the :banghead: , and while I'm not against OC, for the life of me, I can't figure out why you'd want to. I understand carrying a defensive firearm but giving up the advantage of surprise that you get from CC seems counter-intuitive.

The idea is deterrence. That if a criminal is looking for a victim they are going to choose a soft target not a :thumbsup: :thumbsup: armed person to tangle with. I will say there are gives and takes to OC.

What is being done in TX with people acting stupid is not helping any of us. Our local target has no signs so far.
Again, with you on the people acting stupid. :iagree: :thumbsup:

As to the deterrence factor, I'd suggest that if you and a bad guy are similarly armed, and he knows you have a gun and you don't know that he does, he has the advantage. Also, with your weapon in plain sight and within easy grasp, unless you're able to overcome the false sense of security that being armed gives you and remained vigilant, and have the physical skills necessary to retain your weapon during a struggle, the bad guy may soon have two guns. Carrying concealed diminishes these issues.[/quote]

There are pluses and minuses to CC and OC. I usually CC. For the reasons you mentioned and more. OC is more visible which can be good or bad. With OC your weapon is usually more accessible, to both you and everyone else. In VA anyone can OC you must jump through a few hoops to CC. CC is more circumspect, you gain surprise, but lose deterrence. Anyway, I like constitutional carry carry how you like not cause you jumped through a bunch if hoops but because you are an American.

Anyway....good chat.

Now about target.....I find it funny that their statement has likely made them more of a target for thieves. Rather poetic.
by mamabearCali
Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:06 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Target respectfully requests that you shop unarmed
Replies: 101
Views: 17746

Re: Target respectfully requests that you shop unarmed

I do know this, but in TX they carry the force of law. Anyway, if there is a sign I generally try to respect their wishes and take my business dollars elsewhere. But if they can't be bothered enough to put up a sign, I say carry on!

In VA if you don't leave when asked it becomes trespass offense. Just in case inquiring minds are curious.
by mamabearCali
Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:13 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Target respectfully requests that you shop unarmed
Replies: 101
Views: 17746

Re: Target respectfully requests that you shop unarmed

myntalfloss wrote:
mamabearCali wrote:I'd like to knock some sense into that Dad.

Rule #1 of OC. Don't play with your firearm. Unless you are going to shoot someone who needs shooting, don't touch it!

Rule #2 of OC. Have retention on your holster and keep your gun holstered.

Rule #3 if OC. Realize you are visible and that the manner in which you comport yourself reflects on the gun community as a whole. Don't act like an idiot or dress like a gangster. No showboating.

There are more rules, but those are the big three he broke in that picture.

As a person who would like to see more legal and normalized OC of handguns this type of stuff makes me want to :banghead: .
I'm with you on the :banghead: , and while I'm not against OC, for the life of me, I can't figure out why you'd want to. I understand carrying a defensive firearm but giving up the advantage of surprise that you get from CC seems counter-intuitive.

The idea is deterrence. That if a criminal is looking for a victim they are going to choose a soft target not a armed person to tangle with. I will say there are gives and takes to OC.

What is being done in TX with people acting stupid is not helping any of us. Our local target has no signs so far.
by mamabearCali
Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:18 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Target respectfully requests that you shop unarmed
Replies: 101
Views: 17746

Re: Target respectfully requests that you shop unarmed

I'd like to knock some sense into that Dad.

Rule #1 of OC. Don't play with your firearm. Unless you are going to shoot someone who needs shooting, don't touch it!

Rule #2 of OC. Have retention on your holster and keep your gun holstered.

Rule #3 if OC. Realize you are visible and that the manner in which you comport yourself reflects on the gun community as a whole. Don't act like an idiot or dress like a gangster. No showboating.

There are more rules, but those are the big three he broke in that picture.

As a person who would like to see more legal and normalized OC of handguns this type of stuff makes me want to :banghead: .

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