My mistake for not being more clear in the beginning i suppose. I'm definately not out to make any enemies on here. I enjoy the debates and information being shared. I feel the same way about such rules, that's what struck my nerve.The Annoyed Man wrote:then I misunderstood you, and I owe you an apology. I thought you were talking about folks on this board, so I apologize. FWIW, I think that a rule forbidding discussion of any caliber is stupid.bigmoney wrote:My words aren't meant to offend anybody here, but to express how unreasonable it is to deny people their right to talk about the carry of a smaller weapon. I'm not even in possession of a .380 yet, but would love to have one for the easier concealabilty because i'm a smaller guy. sorry if you see something wrong with my words, but with no offense intended, i don't see the issue.The Annoyed Man wrote:Wow. I see someone hit a nerve.bigmoney wrote:The arrogance of others is their own mistake. How exactly they know for sure it's such a horrible choice, is beyond me. Concidering the chances that any of them have been shot by a .380 to effectivley know that it's not a suitable weapon choice, being slim to none. It may not be the ideal weapon to take on a gang of thugs in an all out street war, but it's more than enough to handle one or maybe two losers trying to do you harm. This must be a group of fashionist who spend their time measuring one's worth by the size of his/her weapon. I'll see them on the other side, in the mean time, i'll carry what works for the dress code and situation and make do with what i have. A small .380 would work a lot better in my pocket in summer shorts and shirtless than a compact with a frame showing above my waistline.
I think that there is no inconsistency in recommending something with more stank on it, and still not wanting to step in front of one either. I don't want to step in front of a .177 caliber pellet pistol either, but that doesn't mean that I would recommend it as a carry weapon. Guess what.... you're right... I've never had any experience being shot with a .380. But, unlike most people, I have had a TON of experience treating gunshot patients, I can tell you with a great deal of certainty that .380 is not as good a carry caliber as 9mm or .45 ACP. It just isn't. It's not a terrible choice, but there are better choices... ...in my opinion. Not if what you are talking about is to be able to effectively stop an assailant. That doesn't mean that it won't, but it won't do it as effectively. Don't take it personally.
It isn't about being a fashionista, as you put it, and your charge of arrogance is misplaced. The simple truth is that people make compromises every day in order to make CCW work for them. You have no trouble carrying a .380 in your shorts pockets. Good for you. I have no trouble concealing a larger, more powerful gun when I wear shorts, and I am more comfortable with that choice, but I don't criticize your choice, and you'll notice that I refrained from disparaging the character of people who disagree with my choices. No. You're the one who went there with your "fashionistas" and your "measuring one's worth by the size of his/her weapon," like this was about some kind of sexual fixation.
Frankly, I think you owe people an apology.
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- Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:51 pm
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- Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:37 pm
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- Topic: Should the 380 be discouraged as a CCW ?
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Re: Should the 380 be discouraged as a CCW ?
My words aren't meant to offend anybody here, but to express how unreasonable it is to deny people their right to talk about the carry of a smaller weapon. I'm not even in possession of a .380 yet, but would love to have one for the easier concealabilty because i'm a smaller guy. sorry if you see something wrong with my words, but with no offense intended, i don't see the issue.The Annoyed Man wrote:Wow. I see someone hit a nerve.bigmoney wrote:The arrogance of others is their own mistake. How exactly they know for sure it's such a horrible choice, is beyond me. Concidering the chances that any of them have been shot by a .380 to effectivley know that it's not a suitable weapon choice, being slim to none. It may not be the ideal weapon to take on a gang of thugs in an all out street war, but it's more than enough to handle one or maybe two losers trying to do you harm. This must be a group of fashionist who spend their time measuring one's worth by the size of his/her weapon. I'll see them on the other side, in the mean time, i'll carry what works for the dress code and situation and make do with what i have. A small .380 would work a lot better in my pocket in summer shorts and shirtless than a compact with a frame showing above my waistline.
I think that there is no inconsistency in recommending something with more stank on it, and still not wanting to step in front of one either. I don't want to step in front of a .177 caliber pellet pistol either, but that doesn't mean that I would recommend it as a carry weapon. Guess what.... you're right... I've never had any experience being shot with a .380. But, unlike most people, I have had a TON of experience treating gunshot patients, I can tell you with a great deal of certainty that .380 is not as good a carry caliber as 9mm or .45 ACP. It just isn't. It's not a terrible choice, but there are better choices... ...in my opinion. Not if what you are talking about is to be able to effectively stop an assailant. That doesn't mean that it won't, but it won't do it as effectively. Don't take it personally.
It isn't about being a fashionista, as you put it, and your charge of arrogance is misplaced. The simple truth is that people make compromises every day in order to make CCW work for them. You have no trouble carrying a .380 in your shorts pockets. Good for you. I have no trouble concealing a larger, more powerful gun when I wear shorts, and I am more comfortable with that choice, but I don't criticize your choice, and you'll notice that I refrained from disparaging the character of people who disagree with my choices. No. You're the one who went there with your "fashionistas" and your "measuring one's worth by the size of his/her weapon," like this was about some kind of sexual fixation.
Frankly, I think you owe people an apology.
- Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:18 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Should the 380 be discouraged as a CCW ?
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Re: Should the 380 be discouraged as a CCW ?
My CHL class instructor the other weekend told that Burger King story. I don't remember hearing it persoanlly, but my instructor ended it by saying the GG took gut shots that ended up with him being damaged for life, and haveing to be fed through a tube. Exageration or truth? If truth, that's still a positive feat for the .380 caliber.
- Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:50 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: Should the 380 be discouraged as a CCW ?
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Re: Should the 380 be discouraged as a CCW ?
The arrogance of others is their own mistake. How exactly they know for sure it's such a horrible choice, is beyond me. Concidering the chances that any of them have been shot by a .380 to effectivley know that it's not a suitable weapon choice, being slim to none. It may not be the ideal weapon to take on a gang of thugs in an all out street war, but it's more than enough to handle one or maybe two losers trying to do you harm. This must be a group of fashionist who spend their time measuring one's worth by the size of his/her weapon. I'll see them on the other side, in the mean time, i'll carry what works for the dress code and situation and make do with what i have. A small .380 would work a lot better in my pocket in summer shorts and shirtless than a compact with a frame showing above my waistline.