I fully agree but my response was getting long winded its just a potentially devistating and dangerous ruling that they knew full well the ramifications it could bring with such a decision.,VMI77 wrote:I don't think corruption is really a factor in this. The ruling broadens police power and changes the balance between government power and individual rights. It's a small change that in practice probably won't affect most people but could be life altering for those who are affected. I think the likely negatives are that it will increase the number of mistaken entries, sometimes with lethal consequences, and that it will be exploited by home invaders, and all for little to no gain on society's side of the balance sheet.Medic624 wrote:This thread has gone from talking about the SCOTUS ruling to taking sides on whether LEO are corrupt or not and will abuse this ruling to the point of stating this will eventually devolve our society to a police state.
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- Wed May 18, 2011 5:14 pm
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- Tue May 17, 2011 11:04 pm
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Re: SCOTUS approves warrantless home entry
At face value my initial response was visceral and I instantly thought, "Well, there is another chip cut off the bill of rights and a reduction of my 4th Amendment!" it is a slippery slope and IMHO this is yet another hard push to reduce our ability to remain a Republic of the Free. Free from Govt. intrusion in EVERY aspect of our lives in the guise of "Well it's for YOUR safety and if you're not doing anything wrong then you don't have to worry.. That's being a subject and not a citizen...
This thread has gone from talking about the SCOTUS ruling to taking sides on whether LEO are corrupt or not and will abuse this ruling to the point of stating this will eventually devolve our society to a police state.
Given the stories about LEO recently I have been thinking lately about LEO's and my interactions with them over the years. I spent 17 years in EMS and 15 years as a Paramedic. I've worked side by side with countless LEO and as with any other group there are always good and always bad but... It has ALWAYS been that they are a breed apart and treated me with respect and a mutual understanding. But, recently some cursory interactions (got pulled over for License plate light out) and me just saying "hello" when I see one as a note of respect. Since I am not doing EMS any longer (and don't know any or interact with any on a professional level) I can only say that my recent interactions have left me with one thought, Wow, he was kinda rude and condescending. I can only hope they were having a bad day or is it just the new way they are dealing with John Q. Still hope it was the first one...
Do I think this ruling will take the majority who are everyday decent LEO and create a stormtrooper who will kick in my door and arrest me for whatever they want? Resoundingly, NO!
BUT... Again, this is a hard push down that slope to a place we have NEVER been as a Republic and one that the Founding Fathers made every attempt to avoid.
As Abraham Lincoln said, we can only be taken down from the inside and we are possibly but hopefully not on our way toward a very bad mixture of a democratic socialism with a hard push by some toward Communism.
Oh, and if you get wrongly arrested and accused unless you have $$$$$ you're more likely than not gonna be in a world of hurt and it's going to ruin your life for quite a while until you can hopefully straighten it out...
Just my .02
This thread has gone from talking about the SCOTUS ruling to taking sides on whether LEO are corrupt or not and will abuse this ruling to the point of stating this will eventually devolve our society to a police state.
Given the stories about LEO recently I have been thinking lately about LEO's and my interactions with them over the years. I spent 17 years in EMS and 15 years as a Paramedic. I've worked side by side with countless LEO and as with any other group there are always good and always bad but... It has ALWAYS been that they are a breed apart and treated me with respect and a mutual understanding. But, recently some cursory interactions (got pulled over for License plate light out) and me just saying "hello" when I see one as a note of respect. Since I am not doing EMS any longer (and don't know any or interact with any on a professional level) I can only say that my recent interactions have left me with one thought, Wow, he was kinda rude and condescending. I can only hope they were having a bad day or is it just the new way they are dealing with John Q. Still hope it was the first one...
Do I think this ruling will take the majority who are everyday decent LEO and create a stormtrooper who will kick in my door and arrest me for whatever they want? Resoundingly, NO!
BUT... Again, this is a hard push down that slope to a place we have NEVER been as a Republic and one that the Founding Fathers made every attempt to avoid.
As Abraham Lincoln said, we can only be taken down from the inside and we are possibly but hopefully not on our way toward a very bad mixture of a democratic socialism with a hard push by some toward Communism.
Oh, and if you get wrongly arrested and accused unless you have $$$$$ you're more likely than not gonna be in a world of hurt and it's going to ruin your life for quite a while until you can hopefully straighten it out...
Just my .02