Is it worth the additional money?

[A-R]

I think it is more relevant to ask, "if there were a global nuclear conflagration and all human life was wiped out, who would be the last standing — a cockroach, or my wife's G19?"

Chuck Norris

[frazzled]

I think it is more relevant to ask, "if there were a global nuclear conflagration and all human life was wiped out, who would be the last standing — a cockroach, or my wife's G19?"

Chuck Norris

Yes but now he would have the G19 and would be free to roam the post nuclear apocalypse, riding a a newly mutated giant cochroach...because he's Chuck Norris.

[WildBill]

One of the things that I try to do when making any large purchase is to look at the total cost of ownwership, not the initial outlay of cash. If I spent $200 more on a certain gun and have a good probability that it will remain trouble-free for many years and I won't have to spend any time or money to send it back to the factory or to a gunsmith for repairs or broken parts, then I consider it money well spent.

Over the years I have seen friends buy some cheaper guns and end up replacing them with a more expensive gun later on.

P.S. I don't own a Glock or a Taurus.

[frazzled]

One of the things that I try to do when making any large purchase is to look at the total cost of ownwership, not the initial outlay of cash. If I spent $200 more on a certain gun and have a good probability that it will remain trouble-free for many years and I won't have to spend any time or money to send it back to the factory or to a gunsmith for repairs or broken parts, then I consider it money well spent.

Over the years I have seen friends buy some cheaper guns and end up replacing them with a more expensive gun later on.

P.S. I don't own a Glock or a Taurus.

Also a good point. I will note however, nearly every pistol I've had has broken at one time or another, except a Beretta 92. That includes Beretta, S&W, Ruger, Bersa, and Kimber. Shoot a firearm enough, and it will break.

Heck my first Ruger target pistol went to the shop maybe 6-7 times before it pretty much just fell apart (even had a cracked slide HOW THE HECK DOES A .22 SLIDE CRACK?) Evidently if you shoot 30,000 - 40,000 rounds through something it'll just up and break on ya.

[A-R]

Shoot a firearm enough, and it will break. Evidently if you shoot 30,000 - 40,000 rounds through something it'll just up and break on ya.

Unless it's a Glock.

Glocks are the Chuck Norris of handguns.

You can actually shoot a Glock - I mean really shoot it, fire a bullet AT a Glock and hit it multiple times - and it will continue its boring, ugly, functional life.

OK, I will digress now before I suffer non-self-inflicted Kimber leg (that's when a Kimber owner shoots a Glock owner in the leg who won't shut up about how reliable Glocks are).

[RPB]

I think amputating all fingers on both hands might make any gun safer.
Keep the boogar hook off the bang switch. If you don't want the lights to come on, keep the finger off the light switch.
They work about the same way. Big flashes of light can come out of a gun when the switch is flipped.
If you really want a thumb safety on a Glock, a certified Glock Armorer can install one for about $150.00.
But I don't have one, I'd forget to take it off when I needed to turn the light on.

[WildBill]

I will note however, nearly every pistol I've had has broken at one time or another, except a Beretta 92. That includes Beretta, S&W, Ruger, Bersa, and Kimber. Shoot a firearm enough, and it will break.

I don't understand how you guys are so hard on your handguns that you feel the need to break them. I have never had a firearm that needed to be repaired. After a couple thousand rounds, I just put them in my the safe and buy a new one.

[suthdj]

Waiting on my CHL but just received my PIN. I have been looking at the Taurus Millenium Pro 45ACP versus the Glock 36 (over $200 premium for the Glock). I like the idea of the separate safety on the Taurus, versus the safety in the trigger on the Glock, but have never owned either gun. I was set on the Glock but am having second thoughts. Is it worth the extra money and is the "trigger safety" a real issue? Any guidance?

I have a Glock 21(.45,13rnds) and just bought a PT145 mainly because the Glock is just to big to carry on my frame in the summer. I have yet to shoot the PT145 yet so can not say anything good or bad but my Glock is right on the money never even had to adjust the sights. If you are in the DFW area and would like to shoot them PM me and we can arrange a range day.

[clbryant1981]

I have a Taurus 9mm slim as my carry piece. It's a fun little gun, I have put over 400 rounds through it and have not had an issue with it. It's comfortable, small magazine (7+1), but I just carry a spare, and got the gun store ordering me another one. I second Springfield, as I don't have much experience with Glock, I am in the market for a Springfield XDm .40 Cal. I love that gun.

[mctowalot]

Glock - the Chuck Norris of firearms. Has a nice ring to it.
I failed to mention (on this thread) that I recently got a G30, my first .45 - I had never even shot a .45 until I got mine. I found that I shot very well with it right off the bat - my first 11 rounds were two very tight groups (several hits were touching) and I don't shoot that much. (And no, there were no powder burns on the target)

Now that that's out of the way I have to ask:
Does anyone remember a scene in an old Chuck Norris movie where he is unconsious in a jacked-up Dodge pickup truck, which is buried past it's roof in a large hole?
When Chuck wakes up, he pours a beer (Lone Star?) over his head, cranks up the Dodge, engages the 4 wheel drive and is then is able to "drive" his way up and out of the "grave".
Did this really happen (in a movie) or did I dream this up?

[A-R]

Now that that's out of the way I have to ask:
Does anyone remember a scene in an old Chuck Norris movie where he is unconsious in a jacked-up Dodge pickup truck, which is buried past it's roof in a large hole?
When Chuck wakes up, he pours a beer (Lone Star?) over his head, cranks up the Dodge, engages the 4 wheel drive and is then is able to "drive" his way up and out of the "grave".
Did this really happen (in a movie) or did I dream this up?

YES!!! Oh my gosh I remember that!!!!

I'm trying to think what movie that was. Was it "Lone Wolf McQuaid" ? He was a small-town sheriff or something in that movie I think. Probably last saw that movie on re-runs on basic cable about 20 years ago.

[frazzled]

OK, I will digress now before I suffer non-self-inflicted Kimber leg (that's when a Kimber owner shoots a Glock owner in the leg who won't shut up about how reliable Glocks are).

[gigag04]

I've become a Glock convert by forced conversion (it's what work issues). I know how an awesome G30sf for off duty carry. I find Glocks to be one of the best values in defense handguns. Maybe I'm a handgun snob but I can't take any gun for under $400 as a serious defensive, professional grade, piece of equipment.

I would much prefer a 1911 at work, or even the amazing triggers of a Sig, but we get Glocks, and I'm good with that. If you are looking at the G36 also check the G30/G30sf. It will bump your capacity up as they're double stack.

Taurus and other similar brands that make "knock off" versions of pistols just don't sit right with me. I get making a 1911, but cloning the M9/Barretta 92/96 series...why?! They also seem to imitate S&W revolvers. "It's the exact same but cheaper" rubs me wrong I guess.

[OldCannon]

I get making a 1911, but cloning the M9/Barretta 92/96 series...why?! They also seem to imitate S&W revolvers. "It's the exact same but cheaper" rubs me wrong I guess.

Actually, Taurus has been making Beretta 92's (called PT92) since Beretta won the contract with the US Government, who also bought in quantity from Taurus. It's as good as any other M9 on the market.

[frazzled]

I get making a 1911, but cloning the M9/Barretta 92/96 series...why?! They also seem to imitate S&W revolvers. "It's the exact same but cheaper" rubs me wrong I guess.

Actually, Taurus has been making Beretta 92's (called PT92) since Beretta won the contract with the US Government, who also bought in quantity from Taurus. It's as good as any other M9 on the market.

For a bit of history. At one time Taurus was a Beretta subsidary. Hence why they started off with imitation Beretta 92s-it what was on the assembly line. As Taurus has matured, its product line has evolved away from those clones to a full range of products (fair warning-I've heard both good and bad about Taurus).