Kudos to President Obama

[marksiwel]

Yes. Kudos to Obama. http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20100 ... /100229854" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Barack Obama is the best thing that has happened to America in the last 100 years. Truly, he is the savior of America's future. He is the best thing ever.

[joe817]

Yes. Kudos to Obama. http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20100 ... /100229854" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Barack Obama is the best thing that has happened to America in the last 100 years. Truly, he is the savior of America's future. He is the best thing ever.

Wow and double wow! This should be required reading! BEST article I've read in the past year! Thanks for posting 08!!

This guy has basically put into words what I've felt for a long time.

[swede]

Has anyone read this?

Please read this........ especially the reference to pages 58 & 59


JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
"I have reviewed selected sections of the bill, and find it unbelievable that our Congress, led by
Speaker Nancy Pelosi, could come up with a bill loaded with so many wrong-headed elements."
"Both Republicans and Democrats are equally responsible for the financial mess of both Social
Security and Medicare programs."

"I am opposed to HB 3200 for a number of reasons. To start with, it is estimated that a federal
bureaucracy of more than 150,000 new employees will be required to administer HB3200.
That is an unacceptable expansion of a government that is already too intrusive in our lives.
If we are going to hire 150,000 new employees, let's put them to work protecting our borders,
fighting the massive drug problem and putting more law enforcement/firefighters out there."

JUDGE KITHIL continued: "Other problems I have with this bill include:
** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are
here illegally.
** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and
will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members,
union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations
for Reform Now - ACORN).

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could
anybody in their right mind come up with that?)

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government
will set all doctors' fees.

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however,
communities may petition for an exception.

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on
Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years.
(Death counceling.)

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.

HAD ENOUGH????

Judge Kithil then goes on:
"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of
Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded private plan
that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find
a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future."

Honorable David Kithil
Marble Falls , Texas

All of the above should give you the point blank ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare.
Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Has anyone read this?

Yes. I think I saw it in http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=32857

[lawrnk]

You didn't have a problem voting for Bill again after the 1993 gun ban?

Am I messing with anyone, uh no. All I saw in the first link was one questionnaire, did not see all the other information until the last post, hence me thanking someone for posting it.

As a registered independant, I like to see and read all the information available before making up my mind on candidates and issues. I have no more respect for left wing rantings (e.g. "Bush is going to arrest everyone who disagrees with his wire tapping policies") than I do right wing rantings. It's more interesting and fun to discuss actual facts than nonsense. Reagan was the first president I was old enough to vote for and I did not regret that. I voted for Bush Sr. his first time, then Clinton twice, then Bush Jr. once, the finally Obama. I was never more disappointed in my life than when I saw who the democrats trotted out in 2004.... John Kerry. Man, they could not have picked a better example of a liberal, out of touch pinhead. He looks like someone who never drank beer out of a can in his life.

I would love to know what the NRA plans on doing the next two plus years for us.

[PSLOwner]

You didn't have a problem voting for Bill again after the 1993 gun ban?

Am I messing with anyone, uh no. All I saw in the first link was one questionnaire, did not see all the other information until the last post, hence me thanking someone for posting it.

As a registered independant, I like to see and read all the information available before making up my mind on candidates and issues. I have no more respect for left wing rantings (e.g. "Bush is going to arrest everyone who disagrees with his wire tapping policies") than I do right wing rantings. It's more interesting and fun to discuss actual facts than nonsense. Reagan was the first president I was old enough to vote for and I did not regret that. I voted for Bush Sr. his first time, then Clinton twice, then Bush Jr. once, the finally Obama. I was never more disappointed in my life than when I saw who the democrats trotted out in 2004.... John Kerry. Man, they could not have picked a better example of a liberal, out of touch pinhead. He looks like someone who never drank beer out of a can in his life.

I would love to know what the NRA plans on doing the next two plus years for us.

Presidential elections are not a one issue affair. For me at least, Dole did not offer much. Heck, Pat Buchanan even gave Dole a run for his money.

[Oldgringo]

For those old enough to remember, or smart enough to recognize; it was the un-declared and uncalled for war in Iraq along with the Republican's failure to address domestic issues; e.g., the failing economy, Social Security, Medicare, Health Care, RKBA, bank and mortgage company failures, etc. ad nauseum, that got Obama elected.

What say you that?

[marksiwel]

For those old enough to remember, or smart enough to recognize; it was the un-declared and uncalled for war in Iraq along with the Republican's failure to address domestic issues; e.g., the failing economy, Social Security, Medicare, Health Care, RKBA, bank and mortgage company failures, etc. ad nauseum, that got Obama elected.

What say you that?

I like Pie

[03Lightningrocks]

For those old enough to remember, or smart enough to recognize; it was the un-declared and uncalled for war in Iraq along with the Republican's failure to address domestic issues; e.g., the failing economy, Social Security, Medicare, Health Care, RKBA, bank and mortgage company failures, etc. ad nauseum, that got Obama elected.

What say you that?

I say that the last two years of the Bush Presidency were run by democrats in congress, not Republicans. i say that the financial implosion was a direct result of Democrat imposed legislation attempting to make housing easier to access for minorities. Dropping lending standards and even putting pressure on lenders to make mortgage money more available to low income minorities created the environment that instigated the bad loans to begin with. Maxine Waters and Barney Franks both claimed everything was Okey Dokie just two years before the collapse. Nope... it was good intentions as usual... mostly inspired by Clinton.

Lets us also not forget that before we went into Iraq, Many of these same sewage swilling democrats that hurl accusations at Bush stood up in congress and stated emphatically that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. They were operating off the same information Bush had.

The real reason Odumbell got elected is that Odumbell was framed as the young hip rap star and McCain was framed as needing pampers. It was cool to vote Obama at the time. Most of the folks who voted for Odumbell don't have a clue about what is going on in the world and have gone back to not having a clue.

[Oldgringo]

For those old enough to remember, or smart enough to recognize; it was the un-declared and uncalled for war in Iraq along with the Republican's failure to address domestic issues; e.g., the failing economy, Social Security, Medicare, Health Care, RKBA, bank and mortgage company failures, etc. ad nauseum, that got Obama elected.

What say you that?

I say that the last two years of the Bush Presidency were run by democrats in congress, not Republicans. i say that the financial implosion was a direct result of Democrat imposed legislation attempting to make housing easier to access for minorities. Dropping lending standards and even putting pressure on lenders to make mortgage money more available to low income minorities created the environment that instigated the bad loans to begin with. Maxine Waters and Barney Franks both claimed everything was Okey Dokie just two years before the collapse. Nope... it was good intentions as usual... mostly inspired by Clinton.

Lets us also not forget that before we went into Iraq, Many of these same sewage swilling democrats that hurl accusations at Bush stood up in congress and stated emphatically that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. They were operating off the same information Bush had.

The real reason Odumbell got elected is that Odumbell was framed as the young hip rap star and McCain was framed as needing pampers. It was cool to vote Obama at the time. Most of the folks who voted for Odumbell don't have a clue about what is going on in the world and have gone back to not having a clue.

, except that when the Republicans had the "stroke" to fix things, they didn't. BTW, Goldwater was the first Republican I voted for and McCain was the last. So, while no one can be first, somebody can be next?

[PSLOwner]

I think it is quite fair to blame the recession on both parties; no one party had full blame. Since Bush was in charge at the time, he will get the blame, but the situation is far more complex than "the captain goes down with the ship".

I would hope in the next election the Republicans can come out with someone like McCain, who can work with the democrats and independants. What we do not need is some poloraizing figure getting the nomination.

Oboma inherited quite a mess (two decade long wars, an ecomony in melt-down, etc.). For my vote at least, in 2012, he needs to show progress on many different fronts. If not, I'll check under the hood and kick the tires on who the republicans have to offer. That is how democracies work.

[marksiwel]

So okay 2 years of Democrat Congress, so they only had 8 years where the could have passed ANYTHING they wanted, had the Supreme Court hold it up if needed, and have the White House back it.

Mostly the problem with the Bush whitehouse when it came to Economics is they wouldnt face reality. People were kicked out for suggesting the Iraq war would cost too much (And even then the numbers they gave were way to low!) Paul O'Niell was kicked out for warning people about deficits. Yeah part of the problem was the Democrat led Housing Bust, but lets not forget the Massive debt Bush put us in, and the Bailouts he signed before leaving.

The Iraq War was led badly, we should have sent more people in, we did NOTHING when they started Looting in the streets, we had no after action plans. It was a mess. Compound that with False intelligence, over-eagerness, the poor treatment of allies, it was a farce that cost too many people their lives.

Obama got elected because 1. He was Black 2. People were sick of the mess we had gotten in over the last 8 years 3. Sarah Palin.

Bush/Obama its more of the same with a different Mask on

[03Lightningrocks]

So okay 2 years of Democrat Congress, so they only had 8 years where the could have passed ANYTHING they wanted, had the Supreme Court hold it up if needed, and have the White House back it.

Mostly the problem with the Bush whitehouse when it came to Economics is they wouldnt face reality. People were kicked out for suggesting the Iraq war would cost too much (And even then the numbers they gave were way to low!) Paul O'Niell was kicked out for warning people about deficits. Yeah part of the problem was the Democrat led Housing Bust, but lets not forget the Massive debt Bush put us in, and the Bailouts he signed before leaving.

The Iraq War was led badly, we should have sent more people in, we did NOTHING when they started Looting in the streets, we had no after action plans. It was a mess. Compound that with False intelligence, over-eagerness, the poor treatment of allies, it was a farce that cost too many people their lives.

Obama got elected because 1. He was Black 2. People were sick of the mess we had gotten in over the last 8 years 3. Sarah Palin.

Bush/Obama its more of the same with a different Mask on

It took a lot more than two years for the sub prime lending to rear it's ugly head. Check this out for a history lesson. It goes back to who I am sure was your first favorite liberal President.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/edito ... al_fiasco/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[lawrnk]

For those old enough to remember, or smart enough to recognize; it was the un-declared and uncalled for war in Iraq along with the Republican's failure to address domestic issues; e.g., the failing economy, Social Security, Medicare, Health Care, RKBA, bank and mortgage company failures, etc. ad nauseum, that got Obama elected.

What say you that?

I say that the last two years of the Bush Presidency were run by democrats in congress, not Republicans. i say that the financial implosion was a direct result of Democrat imposed legislation attempting to make housing easier to access for minorities. Dropping lending standards and even putting pressure on lenders to make mortgage money more available to low income minorities created the environment that instigated the bad loans to begin with. Maxine Waters and Barney Franks both claimed everything was Okey Dokie just two years before the collapse. Nope... it was good intentions as usual... mostly inspired by Clinton.

Lets us also not forget that before we went into Iraq, Many of these same sewage swilling democrats that hurl accusations at Bush stood up in congress and stated emphatically that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. They were operating off the same information Bush had.

The real reason Odumbell got elected is that Odumbell was framed as the young hip rap star and McCain was framed as needing pampers. It was cool to vote Obama at the time. Most of the folks who voted for Odumbell don't have a clue about what is going on in the world and have gone back to not having a clue.

Couldn't have said it better. And I recall us dumping into a recession in the tail end of 99, with a declining GDP following the .com bust. Frankly, I don't recall W blaming Clinton for that, not even once did I see that. Obama's choice to continue the blame game is wearing thin on America, as evident in the
current gallup and rassmussen polls today, where he is seriously free falling.

[lawrnk]

Oh, and now CNN polls. Do any major poll have him anything but upside down?