As a person who works in commercial aviation and air traffic control, where word precision and regulation expertise are essential for competence, I have a low tolerance for anyone licensed to carrying a gun or involved in the concealed carry industry who has anything short of expert knowledge of the rules governing the exercise of the rights associated with the license to carry. And no tolerance for an instructor who hasn't made himself an expert.
This isn't some kind of game. This is not a driver's license or a license to sell food at a fair. This license authorizes the holder to carry and use a weapon capable of destroying life at his discretion!. That discretion must be tempered, responsible, mature, expertly knowledgeable of the governing laws, reasoned, and lawfully authorized. Penalties for failure in any of these span the punitive gamut from a Class B misdemeanor to capitol first degree murder.
In my business one must be capable of reading, interpreting, understanding, and implementing aviation laws and regulations to a high degree of precision and thoroughness. Anyone licensed to carry and more so teachers of the CHL need to likewise take that regulatory proficiency seriously. It has been my experience that a significant percentage of CHLs and instructors thankfully do.
To give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he was just stating a suggestion since it is true that there are no case citations where this issue is resolved. Maybe he was just expressing an idea that might be prudent if you want to avoid any possibility of an incident. As for me, I am willing to live by the law as written and take my chances that unless I am lawfully notified as per 30.06 and soon to be 30.07 I have a lawful RIGHT to enter a public non-46.02, non-46.03, or non-46.035 premises carrying my concealed and soon to be unconcealed weapon with a disregard for any non-compliant signage attempting to unlawfully stop me from doing so.
Maybe this is overreaction on my part. The guy may have just been trying to teach caution. But he should have taught the law as written and ensured he made clear what were your rights under current law.
tex
Texas 30.06 vs an image of pistol with red X over it.....tho
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Re: Texas 30.06 vs an image of pistol with red X over it....
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Re: Texas 30.06 vs an image of pistol with red X over it....
I think he was saying he doesn't care what kind of sign they post, if it's private property and they don't want you to carry a gun you don't do it. Avoid confrontations whenever possible.
Re: Texas 30.06 vs an image of pistol with red X over it....
Maybe just a little bit. Remember a few of things. There are also people carrying around a gun without a CHL. A car can and has been used as a deadly weapon. There are also people driving a car or truck around without a license and without understanding many of the basic traffic rules. However, I understand your point and agree that a person in such a position should not be spreading such bad information to the uninformed.thetexan wrote:Maybe this is overreaction on my part. The guy may have just been trying to teach caution. But he should have taught the law as written and ensured he made clear what were your rights under current law.
tex
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Re: Texas 30.06 vs an image of pistol with red X over it....
I picked my first instructor based on his slogan on his website - "I teach the law and nothing but the law". He did exactly that. To this day I can't recall a single issue on which he gave incorrect information.C-dub wrote:Maybe just a little bit. Remember a few of things. There are also people carrying around a gun without a CHL. A car can and has been used as a deadly weapon. There are also people driving a car or truck around without a license and without understanding many of the basic traffic rules. However, I understand your point and agree that a person in such a position should not be spreading such bad information to the uninformed.thetexan wrote:Maybe this is overreaction on my part. The guy may have just been trying to teach caution. But he should have taught the law as written and ensured he made clear what were your rights under current law.
tex
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Re: Texas 30.06 vs an image of pistol with red X over it....
It's hard to when you teach the words on the page and what they practically mean to you.jmra wrote:
I picked my first instructor based on his slogan on his website - "I teach the law and nothing but the law". He did exactly that. To this day I can't recall a single issue on which he gave incorrect information.
tex
Texas LTC Instructor, NRA Pistol Instructor, CFI, CFII, MEI Instructor Pilot