Initially, I Laughed At Trump, Now...

[mojo84]

I agree with some of what Trump says. I also believe in the what he represents which is someone from outside politics with business acumen to help get our financial house in order.

There are other things about Trump that scare me. I know he is not doing this just for the good of the nation. He hasn't done anything without it being good for him first. I also am concerned with how Fox News has jumped in to help keep him on the TV. There almost isn't a segment that doesn't have some sort of mention of Trump. The seem to be completely ignoring the other candidates and are focusing on him and hillary only. I believe this is helping him in the polls and as a result, giving him more of a platform to promote himself and that is what he is an absolute master at.

Also, the more Fox News promotes him and what he says as "news", the less he has to spend on marketing and the more his opponents have to spend to try and stay in the race.

[treadlightly]

I think the Republican Party hates Trump for only one reason - they can't control him with Party financing.

Unfortunately, I don't think they understand, deep in their guts, they can't block him from running.

So, looking at this from a game theory standpoint, the Republican Party can turn its back on Trump. Trump runs as an independent. He either wins as an independent, or a Democrat wins.

Or, the Republicans can hope it's not too late to embrace him and put him on the Republican ticket, in which case I suspect Trump wins. He'll get the Republican faithful who can't stand to vote Democrat, the voters who don't trust Trump but want to block Democrats, and the Democrats who sense Trump really won't be so unfriendly to them.

The current course of the Republican Party leadership will put a Democrat in office.

Or so it appears to me.

[maintenanceguy]

I'm glad Trump is running because he's already forced other candidates to take positions they were trying to avoid discussing. But I'm not a Trump supporter because:

• He's not an outsider. He's been making political deals for hotels, golf courses, casino's and more his whole life. He lives politics and is rich because of it. Building a NJ Casino is a huge political undertaking. He has made as many back room deals as the Clintons.
• He is disingenuous. Kicking out illegal aliens is a hot button topic with conservatives so he's for kicking out illegal aliens. I'm only a few minutes from Atlantic City where he built his Taj Mahal Casino. His construction sites and kitchen staff suggest he's not really all that concerned.
• He's not a constitutionalist. He has said several times that the problem with Washington DC is that "stupid" people are running it. I don't think that's really the problem. The problem is that the government is too big, too intrusive, too expensive, and too involved in things that are constitutionally prohibited.

But I suspect he'll burn out quickly. He's popular because he's so completely anti PC. We're all tired of everyone tip-toeing around every one else's feelings and Trump refuses. It's refreshing. But it's sort of like the funny friend who curses inappropriately. The first couple of times it's funny. But as the evening wears on, it just becomes annoying.

[JALLEN]

On Megyn Kelly's show, I watched Donal Trump give a speech and was favorably impressed.

Yes, he's a narcissistic blowhard, but I agreed with every topic he covered, though I've not heard how he could make Mexico build the border fence...but maybe it's possible. I hope so.

He can't be worse than BO.

Carson and Carly impress me too.

What do you think?

This reminds me of the story of the funeral, where the preacher said it was now the point in the ceremony where members of the assembled crowd were invited to come up and share their memories of the dearly departed. Nobody moved. After several invitations, "come now, there must be some one here who is willing to come up and say something good about this man", a voice from the far back of the church hollered, "His brother was worse!"

[tomtexan]

I understand Bill tried to comfort Hillary one morning by reminding her that Nelson Mandela was elected President after he got out of prison.

Hillary: "Bill, how long am I going to be in here?"
Bill: "At this point, what difference does it make?"

[Catch22]

I'm a Ted Cruz guy, but I'm enjoying watching Trump disrupt the establishment crowd. I'm done voting for the establishment candidates.

[VMI77]

I understand Bill tried to comfort Hillary one morning by reminding her that Nelson Mandela was elected President after he got out of prison.

Hillary isn't going to prison. A couple underlings may be thrown under the bus, but the real ruling class members in this country don't go to prison. The whole thing will be whitewashed and a few months from now Hillary will be campaigning and talking about how the FBI investigated her and cleared her of all wrong doing.

[RogueUSMC]

Trump will bow out before the primaries like he has before. But he is a catalyst. Last election he did it too. He would spout something (that I didn't really disagree with, ) then got hammered by the media. Three months later, that was a platform topic of the others running. He gets stuff started.

What the candidates need to do is introduce their team. Get on a stage and say, "if I am elected, I will place so-and-so in defense, so-and-so in treasury, so-and-so in justince," etc. Why don't they do this? I think Trump would do well with trade or even defense...but that's just me.

[cb1000rider]

Trump will bow out before the primaries like he has before. But he is a catalyst. Last election he did it too. He would spout something (that I didn't really disagree with, ) then got hammered by the media. Three months later, that was a platform topic of the others running. He gets stuff started.

I'm not so sure. He's got a huge ego. As long as he's ahead in the polls, I expect him to stick with it. He's bowed out before because he's never been this far ahead.

The pending election options look pretty horrible to me so far... At least those that are leading the polls.

[JALLEN]

I understand Bill tried to comfort Hillary one morning by reminding her that Nelson Mandela was elected President after he got out of prison.

Hillary isn't going to prison. A couple underlings may be thrown under the bus, but the real ruling class members in this country don't go to prison. The whole thing will be whitewashed and a few months from now Hillary will be campaigning and talking about how the FBI investigated her and cleared her of all wrong doing.

In the first place, the line was supposed to be a laugh line. In the second place, I admire your certainty in the face of a rising sea of doubt.

It's been years since I could post something on one of these forums so absurd, so preposterous, that no one would take it seriously.

[mojo84]

Jallen, some have no sense of humor around here. If it's not dire straits and doom and gloom, they just don't get it.

[striker55]

I'm tired of politicians doing a poor job maybe a businessman with his love of the country is the way to go.

[Pawpaw]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srTQpHiouuI

[VMI77]

I understand Bill tried to comfort Hillary one morning by reminding her that Nelson Mandela was elected President after he got out of prison.

Hillary isn't going to prison. A couple underlings may be thrown under the bus, but the real ruling class members in this country don't go to prison. The whole thing will be whitewashed and a few months from now Hillary will be campaigning and talking about how the FBI investigated her and cleared her of all wrong doing.

In the first place, the line was supposed to be a laugh line. In the second place, I admire your certainty in the face of a rising sea of doubt.

It's been years since I could post something on one of these forums so absurd, so preposterous, that no one would take it seriously.

In the first place, yes, I realized the line was intended as a joke. It's not like that's the first Hillary prison joke I've heard. However, in full context, others on here and at other sites seem to think that Hillary will end up in prison, so my response wasn't solely a response to your joke. Am I absolutely certain...no....she'll probably go to prison right after John Corzine does. The real joke is on all of us, and that joke is that we live in a country that is still the most powerful nation on earth, not a banana republic, and that someone as corrupt and pathological as Hillary is even seriously considered as a legitimate candidate for the presidency.

I am a little confused about your response though....are you saying your Hillary remark was so absurd or preposterous that no one should have taken it seriously, or just that you can't make any remark absurd or preposterous enough for no one to take it seriously? The former would seem to put us in agreement about Hillary's future.

As far as the rising sea of doubt....the doubt seems to be doubt about her continued viability as the Democrat's nominee for president. My comment was solely about her chances of going to prison. Whether or not the Democrats dump her is indeed in doubt, but she's a sure loser for them in any case unless the GOP insists on dismissing the base and nominating Jeb Bush. That will amount to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for both the GOP and the country.

[SewTexas]

was talking with my "kids", who are now young adults, (still not sure when that happened) yesterday. Talk turned to politics, which turned to Trump. My husband made a comment about Trump "not having a filter". My daughter said "that's sort of what you've said about Biden". "Yes", say He, "but Biden is funny when slips up with foreign leaders. Trump would take us to war. We need a President with a filter between the brain and the tongue."