Gov. Abbot Offering DPS Support to Dallas Crime Wave

[joe817]

It think the Dallas mayor is really, really concerned about the worsening conditions in Dallas:

"State troopers could be headed to Dallas to help fight crime wave.
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Texas state troopers could soon join the fight against Dallas’ rising crime wave after Gov. Greg Abbott offered state resources to the beleaguered Dallas police department.:

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/03 ... sign.html/

Here's a better story regarding Gov. Abbott's offer of assistance, from the AP:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/931f40d3 ... led-dallas

[curryman]

Unfortunately our "Police Chief" is incompetent.

[C-dub]

Saw something this morning about the Chief changing his mind about moving a bunch of officers to the night shift. He proposed it or someone did and he backed it at first, but decided not to for some reason.

[shooter37]

I'm not a Dallas resident so I don't have 1st hand knowledge. Can anyone tell me if the DPD uses an aggressive approach to policing: stop and frisk, street interviews, strict enforcement of "minor" offences, etc. Seems like when applied these measures work to drop major crime events.
Yeah, I know about the yells of outrage when the police actually are allowed to "police" but if it saves lives kiss off.

[joe817]

I'm not a Dallas resident so I don't have 1st hand knowledge. Can anyone tell me if the DPD uses an aggressive approach to policing: stop and frisk, street interviews, strict enforcement of "minor" offences, etc. Seems like when applied these measures work to drop major crime events.
Yeah, I know about the yells of outrage when the police actually are allowed to "police" but if it saves lives kiss off.

I don't live in Dallas, and wouldn't for anything. But I've lived only 18 miles away from there for most of my life. From what I've observed they are a 'politically correct' reactive police department, as opposed to what you ask. I travel to Dallas, only when absolutely necessary....to many people.

[Beiruty]

More Drug nets, more undercover narcotics agents.

[Bitter Clinger]

I'm not a Dallas resident so I don't have 1st hand knowledge. Can anyone tell me if the DPD uses an aggressive approach to policing: stop and frisk, street interviews, strict enforcement of "minor" offences, etc. Seems like when applied these measures work to drop major crime events.
Yeah, I know about the yells of outrage when the police actually are allowed to "police" but if it saves lives kiss off.

I don't live in Dallas, and wouldn't for anything. But I've lived only 18 miles away from there for most of my life. From what I've observed they are a 'politically correct' reactive police department, as opposed to what you ask. I travel to Dallas, only when absolutely necessary....to many people.

I am a Dallas resident. There are several sides to this. The first is that the department is way too short-handed to do anything other than reactive policing. The chief is not entirely to blame. He is pretty much at the beck and call of the city manager. Another side is the Dallas county judicial system. It is very lax and usually just extends probation for anything other than an offense that is sexual in nature or causes serious injury or death. An officer I know has had many an arrestee say that he's not worried because it's Dallas County. As for stop and frisk. I don't think that has ever been done. As long as there is legitimate probable cause or reasonable suspicion (you know that pesky 4th amendment), I'd be okay with it. However, our police are cruiser only police. We don't have foot patrols. There are a couple of bicycle guys downtown and at the lake and occasionally mounted patrols. However, most of the murders (this whole thing is about a 71% spike in murders this year) happen away from downtown.

I am a Dallas resident as well. There is an unbelievable amount of property crime that occurs all around our gated development, and even occasionally inside (and we have 24X7 manned gatehouses). Not to mention that it seems as though someone is shot to death in Dallas every day. I think that the problem lies with City and County government, not the DPS per se. One only needs to look at Judge Clay Jenkins, the Obama sycophant to understand what is fundamentally wrong with our governing body. The Dallas mayor and the Dallas City Council are just as bad - they have never met a bad idea that they didn't like. And why is John Wiley Price still not in jail for life?

[philip964]

So is Dallas worse than Houston? I'm posting a lot on Houston crime, but I can't imagine Dallas being worse.

[Redneck_Buddha]

I'm not a Dallas resident so I don't have 1st hand knowledge. Can anyone tell me if the DPD uses an aggressive approach to policing: stop and frisk, street interviews, strict enforcement of "minor" offences, etc. Seems like when applied these measures work to drop major crime events.
Yeah, I know about the yells of outrage when the police actually are allowed to "police" but if it saves lives kiss off.

I don't live in Dallas, and wouldn't for anything. But I've lived only 18 miles away from there for most of my life. From what I've observed they are a 'politically correct' reactive police department, as opposed to what you ask. I travel to Dallas, only when absolutely necessary....to many people.

I am a Dallas resident. There are several sides to this. The first is that the department is way too short-handed to do anything other than reactive policing. The chief is not entirely to blame. He is pretty much at the beck and call of the city manager. Another side is the Dallas county judicial system. It is very lax and usually just extends probation for anything other than an offense that is sexual in nature or causes serious injury or death. An officer I know has had many an arrestee say that he's not worried because it's Dallas County. As for stop and frisk. I don't think that has ever been done. As long as there is legitimate probable cause or reasonable suspicion (you know that pesky 4th amendment), I'd be okay with it. However, our police are cruiser only police. We don't have foot patrols. There are a couple of bicycle guys downtown and at the lake and occasionally mounted patrols. However, most of the murders (this whole thing is about a 71% spike in murders this year) happen away from downtown.

I am a Dallas resident as well. There is an unbelievable amount of property crime that occurs all around our gated development, and even occasionally inside (and we have 24X7 manned gatehouses). Not to mention that it seems as though someone is shot to death in Dallas every day. I think that the problem lies with City and County government, not the DPS per se. One only needs to look at Judge Clay Jenkins, the Obama sycophant to understand what is fundamentally wrong with our governing body. The Dallas mayor and the Dallas City Council are just as bad - they have never met a bad idea that they didn't like. And why is John Wiley Price still not in jail for life?

I agree about Jenkins. His face is on the news 24/7. Wants to bring in unscreened refugees and is a social justice warrior on steroids. Always wonder what it is that gives him his power.

[joe817]

I am a Dallas resident. There are several sides to this. The first is that the department is way too short-handed to do anything other than reactive policing. The chief is not entirely to blame. He is pretty much at the beck and call of the city manager. Another side is the Dallas county judicial system. It is very lax and usually just extends probation for anything other than an offense that is sexual in nature or causes serious injury or death. An officer I know has had many an arrestee say that he's not worried because it's Dallas County. As for stop and frisk. I don't think that has ever been done. As long as there is legitimate probable cause or reasonable suspicion (you know that pesky 4th amendment), I'd be okay with it. However, our police are cruiser only police. We don't have foot patrols. There are a couple of bicycle guys downtown and at the lake and occasionally mounted patrols. However, most of the murders (this whole thing is about a 71% spike in murders this year) happen away from downtown.

I am a Dallas resident as well. There is an unbelievable amount of property crime that occurs all around our gated development, and even occasionally inside (and we have 24X7 manned gatehouses). Not to mention that it seems as though someone is shot to death in Dallas every day. I think that the problem lies with City and County government, not the DPS per se. One only needs to look at Judge Clay Jenkins, the Obama sycophant to understand what is fundamentally wrong with our governing body. The Dallas mayor and the Dallas City Council are just as bad - they have never met a bad idea that they didn't like. And why is John Wiley Price still not in jail for life?

I agree about Jenkins. His face is on the news 24/7. Wants to bring in unscreened refugees and is a social justice warrior on steroids. Always wonder what it is that gives him his power.

Answer: The same kinds of people who keep electing John Wiley Price.

[atx2a]

The Troopers will sort it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg4NwrpXB1o



Seriously, though, the local government is the problem. I lived there for a number of years and have three sisters that currently live there. I also have 2 good friends that work for DPD. I agree that the Chief is not entirely to blame - though I'm partial because we have the same alma mater. Criminals are not held accountable in Dallas and so they run amuck. DPD is entirely understaffed and under supported. I think it's good idea to bring in some help.

[FastCarry]

The property/theft/burglary crime is out of control in north dallas. I brought this up in another thread about the farmers branch incident. Its too easy, my friend had her apartment kicked in 3 times... friend in same complex had her car stolen. The burglaries are out of control and 0 police presence. It was to the point where people just left their cars unlocked to at least save themselves the smashed glass.

Even the kid said something like, "it was my idea, it seemed easy, i thought we got away." This has been a growing problem for the last 3-4 years, they had a chance to get a handle on it early but didnt do a thing.

[Bitter Clinger]

The property/theft/burglary crime is out of control in north dallas. I brought this up in another thread about the farmers branch incident. Its too easy, my friend had her apartment kicked in 3 times... friend in same complex had her car stolen. The burglaries are out of control and 0 police presence. It was to the point where people just left their cars unlocked to at least save themselves the smashed glass.

Even the kid said something like, "it was my idea, it seemed easy, i thought we got away." This has been a growing problem for the last 3-4 years, they had a chance to get a handle on it early but didnt do a thing.

Absolutely correct. If you want to see the huge number of calls, sign onto www.spotcrime.com

It is unbelievable, there are so many incidents you can barely read the map.

[mr1337]

I'm not a Dallas resident so I don't have 1st hand knowledge. Can anyone tell me if the DPD uses an aggressive approach to policing: stop and frisk, street interviews, strict enforcement of "minor" offences, etc. Seems like when applied these measures work to drop major crime events.
Yeah, I know about the yells of outrage when the police actually are allowed to "police" but if it saves lives kiss off.

Stop & frisk is unconstitutional if no probable cause exists.

Voluntary street interviews would be fine as long as they keep them voluntary. Detaining someone without reasonable suspicion is unconstitutional.

I don't get the people who support defending the 2nd Amendment, but want to throw the 4th and 5th Amendments out the window.