Don't want to cause a change, but....

[Jusme]

I don't know if it's due to the demand for AR type rifles, or not, but the prices for rifles chambered for 22lr have dropped in price over the past few months. From my limited research, I have noticed that, these rifles, including semi auto, have gone down any where from $50-$75 over the past few months. I am looking at a Ruger 10/22 take down and it is very affordable now. I don't want to create a run on these, but I believe a 22lr is an all around, better choice in a long term survival situation. It is perfectly suited for taking small game, and while not the best defensive round, will dissuade those who may want to try to raid the homestead. I know I'm not going to stand in front of one and let you shoot me.
Any thoughts from the other forum members?

[joe817]

I don't know if it's due to the demand for AR type rifles, or not, but the prices for rifles chambered for 22lr have dropped in price over the past few months. From my limited research, I have noticed that, these rifles, including semi auto, have gone down any where from $50-$75 over the past few months. I am looking at a Ruger 10/22 take down and it is very affordable now. I don't want to create a run on these, but I believe a 22lr is an all around, better choice in a long term survival situation. It is perfectly suited for taking small game, and while not the best defensive round, will dissuade those who may want to try to raid the homestead. I know I'm not going to stand in front of one and let you shoot me.
Any thoughts from the other forum members?

The military(Air Force) used .22 caliber survival rifles. The M4 Survival Rifle was a .22 calibre bolt-action rifle developed during World War II as part of the survival gear stored under the seat of American military aircraft. It was designed to give downed aircrew a survival weapon for foraging wild game for food. They had them for sale on the civilian market back in the early to mid 60's. One retailer was Service Armament Corporation. I sure had the hots for one of them. Wish I would have bought it.[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Survival_Rifle ]

The other .22 caliber survival rifle that comes to mind was the Armalite AR-7. A nifty little .22 LR that had a hollow stock & you could take it apart and put action, barrel and all in it.

All in all, I think I'd like a little more punch than a .22 LR, but that's just me. But your idea is sound and valid.

[Jusme]

I don't know if it's due to the demand for AR type rifles, or not, but the prices for rifles chambered for 22lr have dropped in price over the past few months. From my limited research, I have noticed that, these rifles, including semi auto, have gone down any where from $50-$75 over the past few months. I am looking at a Ruger 10/22 take down and it is very affordable now. I don't want to create a run on these, but I believe a 22lr is an all around, better choice in a long term survival situation. It is perfectly suited for taking small game, and while not the best defensive round, will dissuade those who may want to try to raid the homestead. I know I'm not going to stand in front of one and let you shoot me.
Any thoughts from the other forum members?

The military(Air Force) used .22 caliber survival rifles. The M4 Survival Rifle was a .22 calibre bolt-action rifle developed during World War II as part of the survival gear stored under the seat of American military aircraft. It was designed to give downed aircrew a survival weapon for foraging wild game for food. They had them for sale on the civilian market back in the early to mid 60's. One retailer was Service Armament Corporation. I sure had the hots for one of them. Wish I would have bought it.[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_Survival_Rifle ]

The other .22 caliber survival rifle that comes to mind was the Armalite AR-7. A nifty little .22 LR that had a hollow stock & you could take it apart and put action, barrel and all in it.

All in all, I think I'd like a little more punch than a .22 LR, but that's just me. But your idea is sound and valid.

Henry Rifles makes the AR 7 now. I'm still debating between that and the 10/22 takedown. As something good to keep in my truck as a Get Home Bag gun. I agree in a Zombie Apocalypse, not my first choice, but I can't deny it's flexibility as something to put food on the table in an excrement contacting the rotating turbine situation.

[joe817]

IMO, there are advantages to both. The 10-22 takedown would probably be assembled faster, but it's larger(I would assume), while the AR-& could be more compact, therefore easier to store.

Plus, the AR-7 floats(IIRC) which could be another survival benefit. OTOH, the 10-22 you can configure it like you like it.

Oh the decisions!

[Jusme]

IMO, there are advantages to both. The 10-22 takedown would probably be assembled faster, but it's larger(I would assume), while the AR-& could be more compact, therefore easier to store.

Plus, the AR-7 floats(IIRC) which could be another survival benefit. OTOH, the 10-22 you can configure it like you like it.

Oh the decisions!

Yeah like I need more choices on what my next gun purchase should be.
Mrs. Jusme has put me on a moratorium for hunting/defensive/fun to shoot at the range/ room in the safe, gun purchases for a while, so I went old school, and old school pricing to convince her that one of these would be advantageous, that could stay in the truck, and not be a huge financial loss, if it should grow legs. My old salesman skills are still pretty sharp along with my disarming charm,huh?

[joe817]

IMO, there are advantages to both. The 10-22 takedown would probably be assembled faster, but it's larger(I would assume), while the AR-& could be more compact, therefore easier to store.

Plus, the AR-7 floats(IIRC) which could be another survival benefit. OTOH, the 10-22 you can configure it like you like it.

Oh the decisions!

Yeah like I need more choices on what my next gun purchase should be.
Mrs. Jusme has put me on a moratorium for hunting/defensive/fun to shoot at the range/ room in the safe, gun purchases for a while, so I went old school, and old school pricing to convince her that one of these would be advantageous, that could stay in the truck, and not be a huge financial loss, if it should grow legs. My old salesman skills are still pretty sharp along with my disarming charm,huh?

Wullll, I wouldn't go that far in saying. But good job on the salesmanship!

[JALLEN]

The IDF has used much modified 10/22s for decades.

http://www.rugertalk.com/The-plinker-we ... -Talk.html

I've had one for >30 years, used for everything from beer can plinking with my sons, to benchrest target shooting, fun, good experience and relatively inexpensive. The ways you can outfit them are essentially infinite, colors, scopes, barrels, stocks, triggers, bolts, the list of tweaks and upgrades goes on and on.

I doubt Chief Kyle would have selected a 10/22 for his activities, but in the hands of an experienced competent shooter, it will handle a great many roles.

[FCH]

We love our Marlin 60. Inexpensive, accurate, just plain fun to shoot.
My wife told me we had enough guns then she saw a Henry lever action. She wants it!

[rentz]

Haven't looked at 22lr rifle prices in a while but maybe I should, wanted a takedown with threaded barrel and never got one.
Perhaps it's the cost of 22lr ammo that's causing lower sales and thus lower prices

I've said to people before if it was a real "walking dead" scenario (I know zombies aren't real but hey gotta kill time talking about something) I think a good 22 would be perfect with a suppressor. Low noise can carry tons of ammo for hunting small game and it's accurate enough you could get zombie head shots.

[atx2a]

We love our Marlin 60. Inexpensive, accurate, just plain fun to shoot.
My wife told me we had enough guns then she saw a Henry lever action. She wants it!

The Marlin 60 was my very first rifle as a kid. So many great memories plinking with my grandpa and dad using that rifle. I still have it. Your post just inspired me to get it out and go hit the range for some inexpensive therapy.

[jmorris]

We love our Marlin 60. Inexpensive, accurate, just plain fun to shoot.
My wife told me we had enough guns then she saw a Henry lever action. She wants it!

The Marlin 60 was my very first rifle as a kid. So many great memories plinking with my grandpa and dad using that rifle. I still have it. Your post just inspired me to get it out and go hit the range for some inexpensive therapy.

Yep, my first rifle. Purchased in 1970, the JC Penny version, Foremost Marlin Model 6660. And I still have it.

Something I've read about these older models is that firing high velocity rounds can damage the buffer block as they weren't designed for that round. There are replacement blocks available for a few dollars that will handle the HV. I've not replaced mine yet because someone gave me a coffee can full of standards about 10 years ago. About half way through the can.

[cyphertext]

Perhaps it's the cost of 22lr ammo that's causing lower sales and thus lower prices

Bingo... the limited availability of .22lr is driving the pricing of the rifles down. Who wants to buy a new .22lr when you can't buy a brick of ammo to go with it!

[JALLEN]

Perhaps it's the cost of 22lr ammo that's causing lower sales and thus lower prices

Bingo... the limited availability of .22lr is driving the pricing of the rifles down. Who wants to buy a new .22lr when you can't buy a brick of ammo to go with it!

But now you can. The availability of ammo isn't like the good old days when you could buy as many bricks as you wanted for $8 a piece, but as far as I have seen, ammo is on the shelves and mail order, plentiful, albeit a bit higher cost.

[The Annoyed Man]

The 10/22 takedown is a splendid idea, but consider this alternative: a M&P15-22, or similar other branded versions. Being an "AR" configuration, the manual of arms is virtually identical to an AR15......AND, push two pins out, and it takes down into two components just like the 10/22. Polymer construction makes it nice and light. Comes with 25 round magazines. It's at least as accurate.

Granted, at $499, the MSRP is too high; but I see new ones selling in the real world for $399.00, only a little higher than the Ruger seems to be selling for, while maintaining the similarity of ergonomics and manual of arms to the AR15 you might already have.

Food for thought.

[cmgee67]

I agree totally. That's why I am getting my 10/22 into shape. I just did a new camo paint job on it and tomorrow I have new irons coming in for it. Will be loaded with my 25rnd mag and a bunch extra for my truck. My AR stays in the truck until recently I decided It better to have my 10/22. If my Ar was stolen there goes 600 in gun and 200 in accessories. If my 10/22 gets stolen I'm out 200$. People knock the 22 for self defense but think about 25 40gr hollow points flying your way with no recoil which means me keeping rounds on target is very easy. A 22 is a nasty little booger I've seen what it does to varmints