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A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
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A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
I think all smart guns are stupid, but this one might take the cake.
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Re: A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
What do you mean, putting in a PIN when drawing your weapon in a high stress situation makes perfect sense.
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Re: A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
It's ridiculously ugly, stupid and another Trojan horse attempt to usurp my gun rights.
Count me as "not interested".
Count me as "not interested".
Re: A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
It's going to be fun watching them sitting around waiting to sell them while paying interest on their business loans.
I don't understand how this will prevent suicide, I think even suicidal people can remember their pin number. Just sayin...
I don't understand how this will prevent suicide, I think even suicidal people can remember their pin number. Just sayin...
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second

Re: A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
No problem at all. You will have the rest of your life to key in the PIN.sbrawley wrote:If this gun was needed in a life threatening situation, the time it takes to punch in the PIN could be the time needed to pull the trigger. Also, what are the chances of someone forgetting their PIN from the stress caused by the the life or death situation?
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Re: A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
I agree. Dumbest smart gun ever. I can imagine engaging a hoard of slow moving zombies and in my best Wyatt Earp impression I throw back my long black overcoat just as my gun beeps three and a half times followed by a fading pin ball tilt chime. I guess I can throw it at the attacking zombies and run...
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This is such a bad idea, I have no words. It would be worth at least 30 minutes of satirical YouTube skits, though. Wow.
And what's with the slide stamped "17" and looking every bit like a Glock upper but with no mention of the word "Glock" anywhere? Is there a lawsuit pending, I wonder?
Ya gotta look at the company's rudimentary website to read about the full set of "features": http://safetyfirstarms.com/. One of my favorites is that the grip safety, if released, will re-lock the gun in less than a third of a second, requiring the entry of the PIN again for it to function. Heaven forbid you get into a defensive situation and need to swap the gun to your non-dominant hand. Oops.
And I run some optics on rifles that require batteries, but I always also have BUIS. This thing requires a battery to fire. What could ever go wrong?
Oh, and the estimated price when it's released in two years? Only $1,295! What a steal for a functionally-impeded non-Glock Glock!
And what's with the slide stamped "17" and looking every bit like a Glock upper but with no mention of the word "Glock" anywhere? Is there a lawsuit pending, I wonder?
Ya gotta look at the company's rudimentary website to read about the full set of "features": http://safetyfirstarms.com/. One of my favorites is that the grip safety, if released, will re-lock the gun in less than a third of a second, requiring the entry of the PIN again for it to function. Heaven forbid you get into a defensive situation and need to swap the gun to your non-dominant hand. Oops.
And I run some optics on rifles that require batteries, but I always also have BUIS. This thing requires a battery to fire. What could ever go wrong?
Oh, and the estimated price when it's released in two years? Only $1,295! What a steal for a functionally-impeded non-Glock Glock!
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Smart guns are being pushed by the socialists for obvious reason. We need to be united against any form of smart gun hitting the market. Don't just refuse to buy them; boycott any shop selling them, and let them know why you are doing so. There is absolutely no benefit to this type of technology, but there is a mountain of potential for abuse by legislators. This is an insidious evil masquerading as a safety feature.
I prefer dangerous freedom to safety in chains.
Let's go Brandon.
Let's go Brandon.
Re: A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
LucasMcCain wrote:Smart guns are being pushed by the socialists for obvious reason. We need to be united against any form of smart gun hitting the market. Don't just refuse to buy them; boycott any shop selling them, and let them know why you are doing so. There is absolutely no benefit to this type of technology, but there is a mountain of potential for abuse by legislators. This is an insidious evil masquerading as a safety feature.
I can't imagine that these will be an item, that any self respecting gun dealer would stock, for all of the reasons already mentioned, coupled with the lack of demand. Who would pay more than twice the price for something like this, from an unproven manufacturer, when they can get a "real" gun from a trusted manufacturer?
Any legislation, requiring these to be sold, should only be implemented after the police and the military are required to use them. Or at least any security personnel for left wing gun grabbers.
Take away the Second first, and the First is gone in a second

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We need to make sure smartguns are commercially unsuccessful and those who help perpetuate it's design, production, marketing and distribution need to pay the price. I hate to break it to you Glock people but if this article is true, I think it's time to boycott Lenny Magill's GlockStore.
I have been a customer of theirs for sometime but no more. I left some feedback on their website contact form and I will post any response. I think negative feedback by the gun community in general might send a message to them.
I have been a customer of theirs for sometime but no more. I left some feedback on their website contact form and I will post any response. I think negative feedback by the gun community in general might send a message to them.
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There is no safety in denial. When seconds count the Police are only minutes away.
Sometimes I really wish a lawyer would chime in and clear things up. Do we have any lawyers on this forum?
There is no safety in denial. When seconds count the Police are only minutes away.
Sometimes I really wish a lawyer would chime in and clear things up. Do we have any lawyers on this forum?
Re: A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
This is a better gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyisfzUT7Ys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyisfzUT7Ys
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Re: A "Not So Smart" "Smart Gun"
I don't know if there is somewhere you can watch past episodes of 60 Minutes, but there was a segment on smart guns about a month ago. It was pretty eye-opening. They also managed to get a pretty well spoken opponent of them to speak. Apparently there was somewhere (New Jersey?) where a law was passed that said that if a smart gun was available for sale all other guns would become illegal. One gun shop owner didn't know this and offered a smart gun for sale. Needless to say, the response from the gun community was not positive. This is just an example, though, of the types of consequences we can expect if something like this becomes commonplace. There is just no benefit to a smart gun versus a regular gun and a quick access safe or a good gun lock.
I prefer dangerous freedom to safety in chains.
Let's go Brandon.
Let's go Brandon.