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Very good post Skiprr. It's apparent you fall in the group that is hurt the most with Obamacare. Hard-working middle class people that do not qualify for Medicaid, Medicare or subsidies and do not have an employer that provides coverage.

It's another case of of the middle class getting it put to us for the benefit of the poor and wealthy. The republicans have fumbled massively and shown they are too interested in preserving their own jobs rather than doing what's right. It's past time for term limits.

I am ok with this version of the GOP plan not passing as I believe it would have made things worse. However, the repuplicans have had plenty of time to develop an effective bill that would deal with lowering the cost of care.
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The democrats will cave and probably quickly! election season is around the corner and Obama Care is hanging around Democrats neck!!! This is part of the Trump plan. If he could just wave the penalty for not having it... I completely understand how stupid insurance works, I am victim of it too! But guys, I am barely making ends meet as it is and I am ok with the short term loss for the big gain! Trust me, Trump knows what he is doing!
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REPEAL OBAMACARE
+ Medicare
+ Medicaid
Tyranny is identified by what is legal for government employees but illegal for the citizenry.
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Lambda Force wrote:
REPEAL OBAMACARE
+ Medicare
+ Medicaid
Now there's a platform to win elections. 46 million seniors WHO VOTE on Medicare in 2015. Yeah, that's the ticket, take it away and never be seen or heard from again as a candidate or political party.
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Republicans should repeal them all or admit they're socialists and push single payer for everybody.

It's crazy to have "free" or subsidized healthcare for everybody except the people who work and pay taxes. Or should I say, the suckers who work and pay taxes.

Say, brother, where do I get me one of those Obamaphones?
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Lambda Force wrote:
REPEAL OBAMACARE
+ Medicare
+ Medicaid
I'm 63. In 2 more years I HAVE to go on Medicare. I was FORCED to pay into Social Security and Medicare. If it ain't there when I need it, bad things will happen. Very bad. THEY acted or FAILED to act. THEY WILL face the consequences.
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anygunanywhere wrote:
Lambda Force wrote:
REPEAL OBAMACARE
+ Medicare
+ Medicaid
I'm 63. In 2 more years I HAVE to go on Medicare. I was FORCED to pay into Social Security and Medicare. If it ain't there when I need it, bad things will happen. Very bad. THEY acted or FAILED to act. THEY WILL face the consequences.
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Lambda Force wrote:Republicans should repeal them all or admit they're socialists and push single payer for everybody.

It's crazy to have "free" or subsidized healthcare for everybody except the people who work and pay taxes. Or should I say, the suckers who work and pay taxes.

Say, brother, where do I get me one of those Obamaphones?
Oh, so it's OK to plan for your retirement knowing that you paid into Medicare all your working life, and then after you retire banking on those benefits, you get them taken away and have squat to live on. Yeah, that's real fair. All you have to do is push the "reverse button" go back in time, and tell yourself you need to have a higher yield on your savings/investments because Medicare won't be there. Where did I put my time machine. Can't find it. And BTW, people on Medicare pay income taxes too. At least we do.
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President Trump Will Sign Executive Order Rolling Back Obama-Era Environmental Regulations

http://time.com/4713731/donald-trump-cl ... ow_twitter
President Donald Trump will sign a sweeping executive order Tuesday intended to shift the direction of U.S. environmental policy and begin the process of undoing some of the most prominent Obama-era environmental regulations, according to a senior White House official.
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G26ster wrote:
Lambda Force wrote:Republicans should repeal them all or admit they're socialists and push single payer for everybody.

It's crazy to have "free" or subsidized healthcare for everybody except the people who work and pay taxes. Or should I say, the suckers who work and pay taxes.

Say, brother, where do I get me one of those Obamaphones?
Oh, so it's OK to plan for your retirement knowing that you paid into Medicare all your working life, and then after you retire banking on those benefits, you get them taken away and have squat to live on. Yeah, that's real fair. All you have to do is push the "reverse button" go back in time, and tell yourself you need to have a higher yield on your savings/investments because Medicare won't be there. Where did I put my time machine. Can't find it. And BTW, people on Medicare pay income taxes too. At least we do.
I don't believe anyone in their right mind would really want to take away the benefit for which you or anyone has paid for over the years. There is an option to stop the program for the future before those that have not yet started paying into the system start.

Whether some of the programs are intentionally and systematically phased out, they will implode on their own and people will lose what they've paid for and the economy will take a devastating hit.

This isn't a young against old deal. The system is unsustainable.
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mojo84 wrote:
G26ster wrote:
Lambda Force wrote:Republicans should repeal them all or admit they're socialists and push single payer for everybody.

It's crazy to have "free" or subsidized healthcare for everybody except the people who work and pay taxes. Or should I say, the suckers who work and pay taxes.

Say, brother, where do I get me one of those Obamaphones?
Oh, so it's OK to plan for your retirement knowing that you paid into Medicare all your working life, and then after you retire banking on those benefits, you get them taken away and have squat to live on. Yeah, that's real fair. All you have to do is push the "reverse button" go back in time, and tell yourself you need to have a higher yield on your savings/investments because Medicare won't be there. Where did I put my time machine. Can't find it. And BTW, people on Medicare pay income taxes too. At least we do.
I don't believe anyone in their right mind would really want to take away the benefit for which you or anyone has paid for over the years. There is an option to stop the program for the future before those that have not yet started paying into the system start.

Whether some of the programs are intentionally and systematically phased out, they will implode on their own and people will lose what they've paid for and the economy will take a devastating hit.

This isn't a young against old deal. The system is unsustainable.


Mojo: I agree that SS & Medicare need to be reformed for future recipients, AND the current system is unsustainable. But when you spice an opinion with phrases like, "It's crazy to have "free" or subsidized healthcare for everybody except the people who work and pay taxes. Or should I say, the suckers who work and pay taxes," after you've said get rid of Medicare, it implies that recipients of SS & Medicare are freeloaders who pay no taxes. That simply is untrue, and it can make the reader feel like it IS a young vs. old situation, and folks on Medicare are deadbeats.
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Democrats still losing seats, in Louisiana a Republican now holds state Senate seat occupied by Dems since 1972:

http://rslc.gop/blog/2017/03/27/2017-go ... louisiana/
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bblhd672 wrote:Democrats still losing seats, in Louisiana a Republican now holds state Senate seat occupied by Dems since 1972:

http://rslc.gop/blog/2017/03/27/2017-go ... louisiana/
Good. Because the alternative is not:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266197/ ... greenfield
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G26ster wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
G26ster wrote:
Lambda Force wrote:Republicans should repeal them all or admit they're socialists and push single payer for everybody.

It's crazy to have "free" or subsidized healthcare for everybody except the people who work and pay taxes. Or should I say, the suckers who work and pay taxes.

Say, brother, where do I get me one of those Obamaphones?
Oh, so it's OK to plan for your retirement knowing that you paid into Medicare all your working life, and then after you retire banking on those benefits, you get them taken away and have squat to live on. Yeah, that's real fair. All you have to do is push the "reverse button" go back in time, and tell yourself you need to have a higher yield on your savings/investments because Medicare won't be there. Where did I put my time machine. Can't find it. And BTW, people on Medicare pay income taxes too. At least we do.
I don't believe anyone in their right mind would really want to take away the benefit for which you or anyone has paid for over the years. There is an option to stop the program for the future before those that have not yet started paying into the system start.

Whether some of the programs are intentionally and systematically phased out, they will implode on their own and people will lose what they've paid for and the economy will take a devastating hit.

This isn't a young against old deal. The system is unsustainable.


Mojo: I agree that SS & Medicare need to be reformed for future recipients, AND the current system is unsustainable. But when you spice an opinion with phrases like, "It's crazy to have "free" or subsidized healthcare for everybody except the people who work and pay taxes. Or should I say, the suckers who work and pay taxes," after you've said get rid of Medicare, it implies that recipients of SS & Medicare are freeloaders who pay no taxes. That simply is untrue, and it can make the reader feel like it IS a young vs. old situation, and folks on Medicare are deadbeats.
I sure hope none of my post came across that way. In my opinion Medicare in the VA are completely separate from the primary Health Care issue that Obamacare affected.8
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Good. Because the alternative is not:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266197/ ... greenfield[/quote]

That article sums it up really well. The left will not stop their nonsense until something drastic happens.
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