Texas State Capitol

[oljames3]

The legislature had plenty of opportunity to fix the law if they cared about the rights of Texans.

The TX AG had plenty of opportunity to make an example of a municipal "bad apple" using the current law.

In two months, we should use the ballot box to express our displeasure at incumbents who don't protect our rights.

The time for this was during the primaries. To actually do this now would mean putting more Democrats into office. As frustrating as RINO's can be, that's not an acceptable alternative especially when it comes to 2A rights.

With Straus out of the way, maybe we'll see more movement on these issues this session. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm not willing to vote for a Democrat either.

[Oak Threeper]

All that is necessary for socialism to triumph is for conservatives to vote RINO.

[WildRose]

Two years and a full legislative session has come and gone since this. The legislature had the opportunity and did nothing to give victims recourse in the courts. Not to act is to act. The incumbents condoned this abuse of power.

For years we tried the soap box.
The incumbents deny justice in the jury box.
The next step is to vote against them at the ballot box.

It was reasonable to give local/county govt's time to adjust to the new law and for the law to be clarified.

We're now past that time and we need new legislation to punish the individuals responsible for the policies that violate the law and our rights, no more limited immunity period.

The legislature had plenty of opportunity to fix the law if they cared about the rights of Texans.

The TX AG had plenty of opportunity to make an example of a municipal "bad apple" using the current law.

In two months, we should use the ballot box to express our displeasure at incumbents who don't protect our rights.



"to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed"

I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure the new law has been in force for less than 2 years.

[ScottDLS]

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I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure the new law has been in force for less than 2 years.

Technically "fines for signs" 2 years and 14 days as of today. Open carry 1 years 9 1/2 months.

[ELB]

The TX AG had plenty of opportunity to make an example of a municipal "bad apple" using the current law.

The Texas AG is using the current law,as written, against a municipal bad apple. Has been for two years. He is not a dictator, thanks be to the constitution, and the courts only move so fast.

Quite frankly he was remarkably aggressive in his interpretation of the courtroom/courthouse issue and he is taking it to court. Also quite frankly this courthouse issue is not the biggest issue he has had to deal with, and he has pursued a strong and aggressive line on a number of 2A and non2A fronts.

To not vote for him in the general election is like the neverTrumpers Who effectively tried to put Hillary in the presidency. It’s putting personal pique over the welfare of state and country

[Jusme]

The TX AG had plenty of opportunity to make an example of a municipal "bad apple" using the current law.

The Texas AG is using the current law,as written, against a municipal bad apple. Has been for two years. He is not a dictator, thanks be to the constitution, and the courts only move so fast.

Quite frankly he was remarkably aggressive in his interpretation of the courtroom/courthouse issue and he is taking it to court. Also quite frankly this courthouse issue is not the biggest issue he has had to deal with, and he has pursued a strong and aggressive line on a number of 2A and non2A fronts.

To not vote for him in the general election is like the neverTrumpers Who effectively tried to put Hillary in the presidency. It’s putting personal pique over the welfare of state and country

The AG can only do so much, with the way the law was constructed. The law should have been written, in such a way that it would have been impossible for certain minicipalities to "work around it" as it is, we are left waiting, and wanting while these cases work their way through the courts.
I have sent my representaives, numerous emails asking them to please address this issue, in the next session. The simplest solution, of course, is to allow LTC holders to carry everywhere LEO can. Then the local DA, judges, sheriffs, city councils, etc, won't be able to carve out their own rules. JMHO

[srothstein]

Actually, I like the way this is working out with the AG. To give him the credit he is due, he took the law as soon as it went into effect and started waiting for us to do our part. When we started sending him complaints, he sent letters out to the offending parties. Most of the offending parties complied and the AG's office kept sending letters out. One or two found some other area of the law that confused the issue (such as the amusement park question) or the courthouse question. Paxton, being a fairly good attorney picked one question to fight through the courts. He has been keeping up with the issue while waiting for the courts to rule on the exact meaning of the law. If he wins, I have no doubt that his office staff will turn their attention on other areas that are doubtful. A precedent set by the court will help them in their arguments with cities.

And if he loses the court case (I don't think he will but it is possible), it just means we have to go back and modify the law to clear up what the court said was wrong. The court ruling will give us clear direction on how to fix the law. And fixing a law the court says has a loophole in it is probably a much easier battle in the legislature than getting the law expanded without the court ruling.

It is frustrating, but this incrementalism is how we got into this position and it is how we will get out of it.

[Flightmare]

Actually, I like the way this is working out with the AG. To give him the credit he is due, he took the law as soon as it went into effect and started waiting for us to do our part. When we started sending him complaints, he sent letters out to the offending parties. Most of the offending parties complied and the AG's office kept sending letters out. One or two found some other area of the law that confused the issue (such as the amusement park question) or the courthouse question. Paxton, being a fairly good attorney picked one question to fight through the courts. He has been keeping up with the issue while waiting for the courts to rule on the exact meaning of the law. If he wins, I have no doubt that his office staff will turn their attention on other areas that are doubtful. A precedent set by the court will help them in their arguments with cities.

And if he loses the court case (I don't think he will but it is possible), it just means we have to go back and modify the law to clear up what the court said was wrong. The court ruling will give us clear direction on how to fix the law. And fixing a law the court says has a loophole in it is probably a much easier battle in the legislature than getting the law expanded without the court ruling.

It is frustrating, but this incrementalism is how we got into this position and it is how we will get out of it.

Bingo!

[WildRose]

The legislature had plenty of opportunity to fix the law if they cared about the rights of Texans.

The TX AG had plenty of opportunity to make an example of a municipal "bad apple" using the current law.

In two months, we should use the ballot box to express our displeasure at incumbents who don't protect our rights.

The time for this was during the primaries. To actually do this now would mean putting more Democrats into office. As frustrating as RINO's can be, that's not an acceptable alternative especially when it comes to 2A rights.

With Straus out of the way, maybe we'll see more movement on these issues this session. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm not willing to vote for a Democrat either.

Strauss was the enemy of conservatives, libertarians, and constitutionalists for his entire term as speaker. His removal gives us a fighting chance now to return some sanity to the legislature and make some real progress towards returning more and more power to the people.

[WildRose]

All that is necessary for socialism to triumph is for conservatives to vote RINO.

What exactly are you going to accomplish by helping democrats win?

[WildRose]

The TX AG had plenty of opportunity to make an example of a municipal "bad apple" using the current law.

The Texas AG is using the current law,as written, against a municipal bad apple. Has been for two years. He is not a dictator, thanks be to the constitution, and the courts only move so fast.

Quite frankly he was remarkably aggressive in his interpretation of the courtroom/courthouse issue and he is taking it to court. Also quite frankly this courthouse issue is not the biggest issue he has had to deal with, and he has pursued a strong and aggressive line on a number of 2A and non2A fronts.

To not vote for him in the general election is like the neverTrumpers Who effectively tried to put Hillary in the presidency. It’s putting personal pique over the welfare of state and country

Very well said. Paxton has a been surprisingly a very strong 2nd Amendment/gun rights advocate and devoted a great deal of his assets to same.

[WildRose]

The TX AG had plenty of opportunity to make an example of a municipal "bad apple" using the current law.

The Texas AG is using the current law,as written, against a municipal bad apple. Has been for two years. He is not a dictator, thanks be to the constitution, and the courts only move so fast.

Quite frankly he was remarkably aggressive in his interpretation of the courtroom/courthouse issue and he is taking it to court. Also quite frankly this courthouse issue is not the biggest issue he has had to deal with, and he has pursued a strong and aggressive line on a number of 2A and non2A fronts.

To not vote for him in the general election is like the neverTrumpers Who effectively tried to put Hillary in the presidency. It’s putting personal pique over the welfare of state and country

The AG can only do so much, with the way the law was constructed. The law should have been written, in such a way that it would have been impossible for certain minicipalities to "work around it" as it is, we are left waiting, and wanting while these cases work their way through the courts.
I have sent my representaives, numerous emails asking them to please address this issue, in the next session. The simplest solution, of course, is to allow LTC holders to carry everywhere LEO can. Then the local DA, judges, sheriffs, city councils, etc, won't be able to carve out their own rules. JMHO

As long as you have judges with an agenda there is no way to craft laws in such a way that they can't be twisted from the bench.