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[Grayling813]

Chris Wallace/Fox News exposed for being another anti-Trump media outlet. Except for Tucker Carlson is anyone else at Fox News still "fair and balanced"?

Wallace interrupted President Trump 35 times. He interrupted Joe Biden zero times.

I agree Trump needs to quit "reacting" to every little provocation and respond with documented facts that dispute Biden's rambling assertions.

[Grayling813]

Chris Wallace is a miserable debate moderator
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... -moderator

Chris Wallace was always going to be a terrible choice as a moderator for any of the three presidential debates, let alone the first one, but good God, did he fulfill that destiny with flying colors.

We knew it back in July when Wallace attempted to fact-check President Trump on the accurate claim that former Vice President Joe Biden was on the record committing to defunding police departments. Biden is, in fact, on record committing to that, and yet, Wallace pretended we hadn't heard it with our own ears.

Even if you could prove that the president was the champion of interrupting every person on Earth, let's talk about what Biden did: He told the president of the United States during a nationally televised debate to "shut up," to "keep yapping," and he called Trump a "clown."

All of that actually happened, and not once did Wallace reprimand the former vice president. He might have perhaps even asked that Biden keep things civil, given that, you know, Biden's whole thing is "restoring the soul of America."

Who knew that restoring the country's soul worked hand in hand with calling the president a "clown" and telling him to his face to "shut up"?

[striker55]

Chris Wallace/Fox News exposed for being another anti-Trump media outlet. Except for Tucker Carlson is anyone else at Fox News still "fair and balanced"?

Wallace interrupted President Trump 35 times. He interrupted Joe Biden zero times.

I agree Trump needs to quit "reacting" to every little provocation and respond with documented facts that dispute Biden's rambling assertions.

I saw that right off the bat. Reading about the debate on CNN they're are biased.

[parabelum]

Another thing, note how they played the headline of the sticky questions for Trump like the $750 tax nonsense underneath the screen, but never pressed Joe on stuff like Hunter Biden and his comrades etc.
Ugh, if Trump could have just remained more cool...

[flechero]

Another thing, note how they played the headline of the sticky questions for Trump like the $750 tax nonsense underneath the screen, but never pressed Joe on stuff like Hunter Biden and his comrades etc.
Ugh, if Trump could have just remained more cool...

Yep, the "news story" was not relevant debate material, an in poor taste to bring it up. Now if he countered with a hunter biden russia or china question- maybe... but still neither should be debate stuff.

[03Lightningrocks]

I can't agree more. I was, as many recall, a critic of the way McConnell handled the passing of RBG. He set himself up for failure back in 2016 with his "election year" garbage. I knew back then it was just a political ploy, but I went a long with it since it would probably favor us short term despite a huge risk of biting us in the rear 4 years later. Well, 4 years later in 2020, where we are. McConnell turned full hypocrite. And hypocrisy is the crux of how I saw the light years ago, making me run from the Democratic party. So in a way, it resonates with me very much, which is why I keep harping on hypocrisy. It was also a politically risky move on his part to play the opposite card.

Very poorly explained by McConnell in 2016 and Trump last night. They should point out that throughout our history, presidents have made SCOTUS picks during election years. When the majority of the senate and president are of the same party, most of those appointments are approved. When the president and majority of the senate are not of the same party, most of the appointments are not approved. The election year comments were just dumb and nonfactual. If the president and McConnell would just stick to the precedent established through our history, it's easier to defend.

Funny thing about the hypocrisy though. The dems are now saying the president shouldn't make an appointment when 4 years ago they were saying it needs to be done. Both sides are hypocrites but the Republicans didn't have to be if they would have explained their actions better.

I think the major difference is that Republicans held the Senate and thus had a constitutional right, and duty, to turn down Obama's pick.

Biden made the statement that the American people have the right to pick the President and the Senate and so the President and Senate should determine the pick to replace RBG. At this point my first response to him would have been. And the American people did pick me as President and a majority Republican Senate so we are doing just what you say we should and pick RGB's replacement.

[txglock21]

Let me ask y'all this, did last night change anybody's vote? Not just yours, but do you think it changed anybody's? I really don't think there are any "fence-sitters" in this year's election. Minds have made up all across America for a while now.

[parabelum]

Let me ask y'all this, did last night change anybody's vote? Not just yours, but do you think it changed anybody's? I really don't think there are any "fence-sitters" in this year's election. Minds have made up all across America for a while now.

Yes, I think that Trump lost some votes last night. Biden didn’t gain or lose any in my opinion.

[Rafe]

Watched the whole thing. Even DVRed it (which disk space will soon be deleted without a rewatch).

Regrettably, it looked to me as if Trump took the whole thing way too much for granted. As if with a few jabs Sleepy Joe would be reduced to stammering, drooling, and talking about his 180 years in office and 200 million U.S. COVID deaths. And Trump could smile and call it a night.

This time, it's Trump's handlers that need a talking to. The bar was set about as high as a street curb for Biden. If he stayed even semi-lucid and upright, to his base and almost-decideds, it's a win. And while I think even I would be a stronger negotiator with foreign powers than Biden, on the low-expectation basis, Biden won.

Just in the 60-minute pre-debate coverage of Fox News, the talking-head commentators rattled off tactics and talking points that were miles ahead of the approach the President took. He has trump cards in his hand (pun intended), but he played only a couple of them. It honest to goodness seemed as if he didn't bother to prep more than an hour, and his whole plan was simply to try to irritate Biden so that he would get flustered and start making trademarked Biden gaffes. That's like going into a hot zone assuming the enemy has no ammunition and couldn't hit an extremely large barn even if they did.

Trump had a golden opportunity, and I hate to say it, but I believe he blew it. I don't think he lost anything appreciable from his base, but I do think even those in his base--as I am--came away with varying levels of disappointment in his performance. I call the opportunity "golden" because the sideshow that was last night's debate may very well turn off a large number of undecideds who watched it...and they won't bother tuning in for #2 or #3 because they won't want to waste another 90 minutes of their lives and learn nothing new from it. He could have energized his base and swayed undecideds with a better game plan and a lot more preparation.

Today there have even been calls for #2 and #3 to be canceled. Of course they won't be. But other calls--and perhaps sane enough after last night's debacle that the Commission on Presidential Debates might take it seriously--have been for the moderator to control the onstage microphones, turning one off when the opponent is having his allocated, dedicated time and taking questions from the moderator, and letting them go at it only during designated free-for-all periods.

So... Just in case anyone else wants to blur over the memory of last night a bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8YxFc_1b_0

[powerboatr]

yep trump was over the top rude with the interruptions. there was plenty to let joe hang himself but he kept interrupting

on climate change (scam) he should have looked at joe and said CA and WA fires were caused by ARSON and then named the people arrested. BAM
or follow up with the fires magically stopped at Canadian border?

he could have easily read the recent report of hillary conspiring with FBI during 2016 election and that JOE and barry had to know.


or when joe said hunter had or was no longer a cocaine addict,....that was a great line to pounce on af2 and huntr flying to russia and china

[srothstein]

Let me ask y'all this, did last night change anybody's vote? Not just yours, but do you think it changed anybody's? I really don't think there are any "fence-sitters" in this year's election. Minds have made up all across America for a while now.

I did not watch because I am one of the ones who it couldn't change my mind. But the news reports are saying it really did cost votes to both sides. A lot of the independents/fence-sitters got disgusted and say that they might just not vote after this. I think that would actually help Trump since his base is much more motivated to come out and vote than Biden's is. My personal opinion, which could be wrong, is that the Democrats are more split within the party and losing any of them would be the ones that were going to vote for Biden as the Democrat even if they preferred someone else at first.

But the people who are voting because they truly support Trump or Biden, or wnat to vote against one or the other, won't change their minds no matter what.

[Tex1961]

My mind was made up in 1980. Even at a ripe old age of 18 I already knew that the Republican Party aligned with my views. Reagan was my very first vote.

[K.Mooneyham]

I didn't watch the debate, I don't care what Trump or Biden said or didn't say. I'm still going to go vote AGAINST Biden and Harris.