Weird signage

[The Annoyed Man]

I’m currently getting PT for spinal problems, and the PT center where I’m receiving treatment has a weird mashup of a 30.05, 30.06, and 30.07 all in one. The font size appears correct, but the text is throwing me. Is it valid to put all three signs together into one?

[srothstein]

I would say no.

[puma guy]

Not a lawyer, but I would think combining signage that is dictated to be verbatim by legislation wouldn't be enforceable. They are separate PC codes and I've never seen a 30.06 and 30.07 sign combination. Maybe srothstein will chime in. BTW I messaged you on Facebook about Firearm Policy Coalition's win in Cali removing the ban on non-resident CCW permits. Hope your back is improving.

[LDB415]

I would ignore such a sign since the verbiage is not what the law requires. But that's just me and I'm old and cranky and not a good example to follow.

[The Annoyed Man]

I would say no.

Thank you. Thats what I thought. I'll ignore it going forward.

[The Annoyed Man]

I would ignore such a sign since the verbiage is not what the law requires. But that's just me and I'm old and cranky and not a good example to follow.

I just turned 73 on Sunday, my brother from another mother. My motto is "I do what I want."

[The Annoyed Man]

Not a lawyer, but I would think combining signage that is dictated to be verbatim by legislation wouldn't be enforceable. They are separate PC codes and I've never seen a 30.06 and 30.07 sign combination. Maybe srothstein will chime in. BTW I messaged you on Facebook about Firearm Policy Coalition's win in Cali removing the ban on non-resident CCW permits. Hope your back is improving.

Thanks. I almost never visit FaceBook any longer, so I haven't seen your message. I'll check it out now.

[chasfm11]

I'm pretty sure that the sign tat you saw in PT was the same as the one that Whole Foods used for several years. Suddenly on my last stop there (an Amazon return, I would never shop in that store) they had a valid 30.06 sign and nothing else. I'm sure that you wouldn't get two feet inside the door OC but it is interesting that they are blowing off Constitutional Carry. Perhaps their lawyers were going the with the lowest odds.

Over the years, I've gotten pretty sloppy about printing. In the "old days" I was paranoid if there was any sort of a bulge. Now, I don't carry how much anything sticks out. My approach to signs like your PT off is to look at how much I'm printing. If it is a small amount that could qualify as a cell phone pouch, I'm good to go. If I have on an OWB that screams "gun", I might leave it in the car. "Might."

[der Teufel]

While the sign is probably not enforceable should you be taken to court, the intent is quite clear.
I don't go where I'm not wanted, unless I absolutely can't avoid going. This would be one of those cases. I would not carry in there.
I may not like their attitude, but it is their business and I'd respect their property rights.

[KC5AV]

The wording of the sign appears to prohibit just about everyone.

“…licensed under sub chapter H, Chapter 411 Government code (Handgun licensing law) OR A PERSON, may not enter…”

If I had to be there, I’d ignore the sign.

[RoyGBiv]

Find a good volunteer opportunity.. then you can carry on without worry...
And it feels good to volunteer...

https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._ ... tion_30.06

(f)
It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the license holder is volunteer emergency services personnel, as defined by Section 46.01 (Definitions).

https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._ ... tion_46.01
Emphasis added.

(18)
“Volunteer emergency services personnel” includes a volunteer firefighter, an emergency medical services volunteer as defined by Section 773.003 (Definitions), Health and Safety Code, and any individual who, as a volunteer, provides services for the benefit of the general public during emergency situations. The term does not include a peace officer or reserve law enforcement officer, as those terms are defined by Section 1701.001 (Definitions), Occupations Code, who is performing law enforcement duties.

[puma guy]

I would say no.

Looks like you were writing about the same time I was using you being a possible respondant in my post. LOL

[The Annoyed Man]

Find a good volunteer opportunity.. then you can carry on without worry...
And it feels good to volunteer...

https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._ ... tion_30.06

(f)
It is a defense to prosecution under this section that the license holder is volunteer emergency services personnel, as defined by Section 46.01 (Definitions).

https://texas.public.law/statutes/tex._ ... tion_46.01
Emphasis added.

(18)
“Volunteer emergency services personnel” includes a volunteer firefighter, an emergency medical services volunteer as defined by Section 773.003 (Definitions), Health and Safety Code, and any individual who, as a volunteerc, provides services for the benefit of the general public during emergency situations. The term does not include a peace officer or reserve law enforcement officer, as those terms are defined by Section 1701.001 (Definitions), Occupations Code, who is performing law enforcement duties.

In the case of this PT center, I’m a patient. I spent a decent amount of my younger adulthood working in a trauma center ER. I've seen all that I care to see, and I feel like I did my part.

I finally decided to just leave my pistol in the car, and to park where I can see my car at all times. On Wednesday, I parked right outside the front door and the front windows.They have me doing a lot of different exercises, and short of lugging around a rather obvious fanny pack, it's just too big of a pain in the butt to try and conceal a pistol on my person while I’m there.

If I was just there to pay a bill, or drop off or pickup my wife, I'd ignore the sign.