Laws Riding a Greyhound Bus While Carrying

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:44 pm

There have been a number of criminal attacks on Greyhound buses and IIRC one case where a lunatic got control and crashed the bus. Unfortunately, no law-abiding citizens were able to intervene.

- Jim

pmw · Post by **pmw** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:22 pm

According to an acquaintance of mine, Greyhound occasionally performs a "voluntary search", where passengers have a choice of submitting to a search or not boarding the bus.

This may foil my plans of carrying a concealed firearm on my trip next week. Does anyone know how frequent these searches are, and whether the CHL card has any sway on the searcher?

CleverNickname · Post by **CleverNickname** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:32 pm

Not legal according to 18 USC 922(e), the same law that makes it illegal to carry on an airliner.

pmw · Post by **pmw** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:51 pm

CleverNickname wrote:Not legal according to 18 USC 922(e), the same law that makes it illegal to carry on an airliner.

From that link,

any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce

if my Greyhound trip is from Dallas to Houston, then it's neither interstate nor foreign nor commerce.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:07 pm

pmw wrote:
any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce
if my Greyhound trip is from Dallas to Houston, then it's neither interstate nor foreign nor commerce.

Ah, but it's long established that if it could be in interstate commerce, the law applies.

- Jim

casingpoint · Post by **casingpoint** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:02 pm

"Unfortunately, no law-abiding citizens were able to intervene"

Probably because there weren't any on the bus.

dihappy · Post by **dihappy** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:04 pm

In San Antonio, TX

This is NOT posted in an obvious locatin, nor is it 30.06

It is located inside, to the back, by the staging area where you wait for departures.

stevie_d_64 · Post by **stevie_d_64** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:07 pm

Somebody just got nominated for "ressurecting an old thread" award!!!

Glad that sign was in spanish...I was getting worried till I saw that...

flb_78 · Post by **flb_78** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:27 pm

If you get on the bus and the driver does a little welcome aboard speech and it included that guns are not allowed on the bus, then you would be in violation with concealed carry and could be prosecuted.

CleverNickname · Post by **CleverNickname** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:36 pm

pmw wrote:
CleverNickname wrote:Not legal according to 18 USC 922(e), the same law that makes it illegal to carry on an airliner.
From that link,
any common or contract carrier for transportation or shipment in interstate or foreign commerce
if my Greyhound trip is from Dallas to Houston, then it's neither interstate nor foreign nor commerce.

Try telling that to the TSA when you fly from Dallas to Houston.

lawrnk · Post by **lawrnk** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:27 pm

Having been to the houston Greyhound bus station twice, and riding twice in my youth, I would not want to be without a weapon at a major station. Those places are slightly safer than Harris County Jail.

lawrnk · Post by **lawrnk** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:28 pm

flb_78 wrote:If you get on the bus and the driver does a little welcome aboard speech and it included that guns are not allowed on the bus, then you would be in violation with concealed carry and could be prosecuted.

Would the driver have to recite the 30.06 verbatim? OR just say no guns?

flb_78 · Post by **flb_78** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:56 pm

lawrnk wrote:
flb_78 wrote:If you get on the bus and the driver does a little welcome aboard speech and it included that guns are not allowed on the bus, then you would be in violation with concealed carry and could be prosecuted.
Would the driver have to recite the 30.06 verbatim? OR just say no guns?

just has to say "no guns" when it's verbal.

pmw · Post by **pmw** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:18 pm

flb_78 wrote:
lawrnk wrote:Would the driver have to recite the 30.06 verbatim? OR just say no guns?
just has to say "no guns" when it's verbal.

Does the driver have the authority to issue a legally-binding verbal notice? Penal Code 30.06 says, "a person receives notice if the owner of the property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice to the person..."

Does a Greyhound driver have apparent authority to act for the owner? I am leaning toward yes.

KBCraig · Post by **KBCraig** » Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:52 pm

I'm sorry, my hearing has been going lately. I didn't hear anyone say anything about "no guns"!