I think most people want to believe the LCP is better because it says "Ruger" and they have already conditioned themselves to believe that Kel-Tecs are junk. Also the fact that it is hard to get your hands on one adds to the allure of it being desirable.
Still I would rather bet on the P3AT, the same basic pistol but one made by a company who has build their entire business around small-frame pistols. Plus there is something to be said for rewarding innovation rather than copycats. That's just me. If I had to pick, I'd get the P3AT in a heartbeat rather than the me-too Ruger.
I understand about needing to be totally discreet when carrying at work. I think no matter what you do, you are likely to get made eventually if you regularly carry something as big as an M&P compact. If that will present a serious problem then I think I'd go right out and buy a smaller pistol.
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Ditto on the KT P380 or Ruger LCP pocket carry - but for my larger pistols I had one of these 'day planner' concealed carry binders - goto http://www.jaxknives.com/jagwear_day_planners.html.
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I saw where Comp Tac has "clips" that fit under your belt and have a velcro strip. If your serious about it all you get the matching velcro sewn to the back of the belt. Don't know if it works but you can't see the clips.
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I think it's easy to conceal in business attire. A wool sport coat or classic blue blazer easily conceals a full size pistol.
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My thoughts...
1st, Milt sparks clips are hidden, they pinch the trousers under you belt, nothing hangs below your belt.
2nd,,,,,,one up your "business attire" to a suit. i do, I shed the tie, suit that fits right does not bother me at all, I carry a Full size 1911 all day at work.
1st, Milt sparks clips are hidden, they pinch the trousers under you belt, nothing hangs below your belt.
2nd,,,,,,one up your "business attire" to a suit. i do, I shed the tie, suit that fits right does not bother me at all, I carry a Full size 1911 all day at work.
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The problem with a suit or sports coat is that I would be the only person at the office in one. Even the boss just wears khakis and a polo or button-up daily. I'm pretty low on the totem pole, so I don't think it would work.
Hopefully I can get a good deal on a pocket pistol at the Fort Worth Gun Show this weekend...
Hopefully I can get a good deal on a pocket pistol at the Fort Worth Gun Show this weekend...
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OK, when I originally read your post I thought, "what could be the problem, just always wear your sport coat or jacket?'. Around here, business attire is slacks, dress shirt & tie minimal*. Yours is business casual.AggieBonz02 wrote:The problem with a suit or sports coat is that I would be the only person at the office in one. Even the boss just wears khakis and a polo or button-up daily. I'm pretty low on the totem pole, so I don't think it would work.
Hopefully I can get a good deal on a pocket pistol at the Fort Worth Gun Show this weekend...
Anyway, I have a Crossbreed tuckable holster with just two black, narrow clips showing. I always wear a wide black belt. I don't think the average person is even going to notice it. If I was worried I'd just put my cell phone case between the clips and they'd think it was something to do with that.
*I get to cheat. Since I'm the IT guy and often spend time hauling stuff, crawling under stuff, etc, I get to do khakis and polo as standard dress. Jeans and polos for the really heavy lifting days.
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How about bowling shirts or Hawaiian shirts that are not tucked in? That's my plan for most of the time (my office is very casual - shorts to slacks).AggieBonz02 wrote:The problem with a suit or sports coat is that I would be the only person at the office in one. Even the boss just wears khakis and a polo or button-up daily. I'm pretty low on the totem pole, so I don't think it would work.
Hopefully I can get a good deal on a pocket pistol at the Fort Worth Gun Show this weekend...
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Let me endorse this, or emphasize it if you didn't catch it the first time. I have a Comp-tac CTAC tuckable holster which I secure using the Velcro "V-clips," because like you I DO NOT want anyone to have the least hint about me carrying, regardless of how inobservant most people might be. I carry my FN Hi Power all the time with it, including in a suit with white shirt, and it hides very well.FIFTY wrote:No one has noticed the Velcro clips on my Comp-tac M-tac. If you have "bloused" your shirt just a bit the clips are completely hidden.
The price is somewhat steep, but the customer service and overall comfort is OUTSTANDING. Typically there is very little wait, but I know they have been down for the past several days as a result of Ike.
If you don't know what the V-clips are, go to http://www.comp-tac.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and check them out. They are clips that come up and over the top of the pants, fit BETWEEN the belt and pants, but do not go under the bottom of belt with any kind of hook (i.e. not a J-hook). You will need to put the other half of the velcro on the inside of your belt. You can either buy a belt with velcro sewed in (best) or super-glue a strip on the inside of an existing belt (which is what I did to several of my belts). It makes for a very solid/stable holster, and shows the least evidence of any kind of belt holster I have seen. The only thing showing is where the black Kydex clip comes over the top of the pants, but your shirt's natural blousing will cover that easily. I would take of picture of mine that I am wearing now, but the wife is out of town with the digital camera.
I've been using this for a couple years, maybe more now, and I really really like it, both from the aspect of a good stable holster, and concealability. I wear it with everything from suits to T-shirts, works just fine.
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