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This time at night in their yards...

I'm curious as to how nobody noticed either the shots or the noise the dogs must have been making; several of the shots on the larger dogs wouldn't have been quickly fatal, and I just can't imagine the dogs dying quietly from bleeding out through .22 wounds. The neighborhood is at the edge of town, but not sparse enough that a dog yelping in that sort of pain would be expected to go unnoticed.

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Dublin dogs dead
Who shot Doggy Doo, Leo, Sugarbear, Rollo, Tooter and Jolie?
Tooter, a 15-year-old rat
terrier, was shot and killed in his backyard sometime Wednesday night in Dublin. The shooting is the second of its kind in a matter of days, and the

By WHITNEY WHITE-ASHLEY
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Whitney.ashley@empiretribune.com
Published: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:56 AM CST
For the second time in a matter of days, a second dog-related shooting has rocked the close-knit community of Dublin.

“It sounds like someone murdered those dogs,” said Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant, when asked about the shootings, which occurred on the same street in Dublin.

Sometime late Wednesday night or early Thursday morning, someone shot and killed Tammy Cupps’ two rat terriers. Tooter was a 15-year-old male and Jolie was a
12-year old female. “I
usually start bringing them in the house when it gets cold,” Cupps said.

But that night they were both on chains in the backyard. Cupps admits that the small dogs sometimes barked at people they didn’t know.

“I could tell the difference between barks,” Cupps said. “They’re just like my kids, too.”

It was Cupps’ daughter who found the slain dogs in the yard Thursday morning, still tied to their chains.

“She’s pretty shaken up,” Cupps said. “I couldn’t understand what she was trying to say, but she kept saying, ‘They’re dead! They’re dead!’”

A bullet struck Tooter in the hip. Jolie suffered two shots, one to her stomach and one near her hind legs.

Cupps lives in the 300 block of South Liberty Street, just one block from Danny Clayton, whose two German Shepherds were shot and killed and a third dog was injured last week.

Clayton said the police consider the shootings a serious matter.

“They have taken this very seriously,” Clayton said. “They’re hands have been tied because there wasn’t any physical evidence left behind.”

Repeated calls to Dublin police seeking comment on the case were not returned.

Bryant called the shootings unusual and cautioned residents in the area to keep pets indoors and to watch for anything suspicious.

In September, another dog was shot on South Liberty Street.

Lisa Srader owned a female pit bull named Doggy Doo. She stayed in the backyard on a chain, but was friendly, according to Srader, and would play with her 4-year-old son, Korbin Ballard.

Little Korbin found Doggy Doo on the morning of Sept. 27, shot dead, still tied to her chain in the backyard. He told his mom Doggy Doo was just sleeping, but when Srader went to go check, she found blood splatter on the doghouse and a rock nearby.

Doggy Doo had been shot in the shoulder with a .22 caliber weapon. She was shot sometime in the late evening on Sept. 26. The bullet entered her shoulder and exited through her chest.

Clayton’s pets were also shot by a weapon of the same caliber.
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I'm curious how they determined the caliber of the weapon in these shootings... (they claim there was no physical evidence found).

One thing is certain however, the perpetrator(s) is a really sick or demented person.
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flintknapper wrote: One thing is certain however, the perpetrator(s) is a really sick or demented person.
:iagree: Sounds to me like they have a nut case running around loose. Anybody that would do something like that would just as soon shoot a human.

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bryang wrote:Anybody that would do something like that would just as soon shoot a human.
Yeah; serial-killers-in-training often start with animals. I hope Sheriff Bryant catches the culprit, and I sure hope it doesn't turn out to be a teenager...
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Exactly. I hope they are taking this matter seriously.
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flintknapper wrote:I'm curious how they determined the caliber of the weapon in these shootings... (they claim there was no physical evidence found).
If there was a shooting, other than with a phaser, there is physical evidence left behind. I sincerely doubt the shooter recovered the bullets himself.
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srothstein wrote:
flintknapper wrote:I'm curious how they determined the caliber of the weapon in these shootings... (they claim there was no physical evidence found).
If there was a shooting, other than with a phaser, there is physical evidence left behind. I sincerely doubt the shooter recovered the bullets himself.
I agree on both points, but that still doesn't explain the statement away. Either there was physical evidence and police have it, or none was found. If none was found...how can it be determined a .22 caliber was used, besides a small entrance hole (which would be a guess).
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KD5NRH wrote:“It sounds like someone murdered those dogs,” said Erath County Sheriff Tommy Bryant, when asked about the shootings, which occurred on the same street in Dublin.
Yes it does. There's a world of difference between shooting a dog chained up in the owners back yard and shooting a possibly feral dog running free.
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srothstein wrote:
flintknapper wrote:I'm curious how they determined the caliber of the weapon in these shootings... (they claim there was no physical evidence found).
If there was a shooting, other than with a phaser, there is physical evidence left behind. I sincerely doubt the shooter recovered the bullets himself.
Would an arrow leave similar wounds? Are there arrows that are the same diameter as a .22? If so, then the person who did this would just remove the arrow, but I don't know if removing the arrow would leave a different kind of wound.
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Skiprr wrote:
bryang wrote:Anybody that would do something like that would just as soon shoot a human.
Yeah; serial-killers-in-training often start with animals. I hope Sheriff Bryant catches the culprit, and I sure hope it doesn't turn out to be a teenager...
Anybody who would do this is too cowardly to shoot anything that could fight back - teenager or adult! Get the rope boys and hang 'em high !
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Oldgringo wrote:
Skiprr wrote:
bryang wrote:Anybody that would do something like that would just as soon shoot a human.
Yeah; serial-killers-in-training often start with animals. I hope Sheriff Bryant catches the culprit, and I sure hope it doesn't turn out to be a teenager...
Anybody who would do this is too cowardly to shoot anything that could fight back - teenager or adult! Get the rope boys and hang 'em high !


I agree.. Hope they find who ever is doing it.

I'm not into shooting anything thats not paper, or I cant eat. Unless I'm threatened, of course.. I always have dog problems when we have calves dropping, even then I try going to the owners 2 times before I take action.. I still dont like doing it even after I tried to resolve the situation. I've known a lot of people that have no problem with killing a dog or any other animal just because, thats always come across to me as being sick minded..

There was a guy a few yrs back there were shooting deer off the side of the road and leaving they lay. They came over on my place every night to munch on round bales.. I caught the guy doing it one night, man that felt good watching him get cuffed..
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flintknapper wrote:
srothstein wrote:
flintknapper wrote:I'm curious how they determined the caliber of the weapon in these shootings... (they claim there was no physical evidence found).
If there was a shooting, other than with a phaser, there is physical evidence left behind. I sincerely doubt the shooter recovered the bullets himself.
I agree on both points, but that still doesn't explain the statement away. Either there was physical evidence and police have it, or none was found. If none was found...how can it be determined a .22 caliber was used, besides a small entrance hole (which would be a guess).
Sorry, but that was my point. The cop who said there was no physical evidence left behind (even the wound is physical evidence) was an idiot for saying that.

About like being an idiot for saying the dogs were murdered. They were killed, but murder is a specific crime that requires a human dead body. Cops should use the proper terminology, at least according to my standards of professionalism.
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srothstein wrote:Sorry, but that was my point. The cop who said there was no physical evidence left behind (even the wound is physical evidence) was an idiot for saying that.
Actually, that was one of the owners.

This whole theing leaves some odd questions. Why is the sheriff doing all the commenting when it's Dublin PD's case? Why didn't anybody hear gunshots? (.22 air rifle, maybe?) Why didn't anybody hear the dogs acting strange before or after they were shot?

The comments on the story are getting entertaining, too. There's one dingbat calling for all the .22s in the area to be seized for ballistic fingerprinting. (Never mind that pesky 4th Amendment, or the cost of testing on what would certainly be hundreds of guns...or, for that matter, what would happen the second news hits the internet that door-to-door gun confiscations have started.)
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KD5NRH wrote:
srothstein wrote: (.22 air rifle, maybe?)
That's what I'm thinking. There are some really powerful airguns available,and one could definitely use any of them to do this.
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