church carry

[vickark]

I was under the impression that carry in church was prohibited. When i took my chl course
years ago i thought that was one of the places i couldn't carry.
I've seen several members on the forum that have stated that they do carry there.
Please set me straight on this issue. My wife and i visit other churches for various functions most of them at night. Some are in older parts of town (Houston) that are not as nice of an area as they once were.
Thanks

[Xander]

Church carry is perfectly legal unless the church posts a legally correct 30.06 sign. It's one of those points that's confusing because it used to be a prohibited place, but when they legalized it, instead of removing the bit of the law that made it illegal, they just added a paragraph at the end essentially reversing the law and making churches just like any other non-prohibited place.

[carlson1]

Welcome to the Forum. The Church must have the 30.06 sign to be off limits. Here are few other threads.


http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... urch+carry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... urch+carry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[vickark]

Thanks a million guys. Wow, what a quick reply ! No doubt about it- i need to get a newer chl handbook .
It's really sad when you need to have protection just to go to church.
When i was a kid , my family would leave the house unlocked, get out of the car at church
with the keys left in it and go on in.Sometimes when we came out there would be beans,tomatoes or a mess of greens someone had left on the back seat-LOL
Thanks for setting me straight on this.

[nitrogen]

It's confusing because the way the law basically reads:

Carry is prohibited:
1 ...
2 ...
3 CHURCHES And places of worship
4 ....

Prohibitations in section 3 only apply if the property is posted 3.06.

So it's easy to think it's prohibited unless you keep reading.

[TxFig]

just fyi - in my church, a fairly high number of folks carry.

Including my pastor.

[Skiprr]

Seems to me I remember a pastor or two around here who "don't leave home without it."

Vickark, you can download the latest CHL handbook here: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... edlaws.htm.

[vickark]

Skiprr- thanks for the chl handbook link. Got er done

[barres]

Seems to me I remember a pastor or two around here who "don't leave home without it."

Yes. There are three of us that I can think of off the top of my head that can be found in the pulpit every Sunday armed with our Sword (of the Spirit) and our firearm(s).

[Nintao]

When I took my class about 4 1/2 months back (from a Detective), he mentioned Churches as being off limits, unless you are given permission. He even went further stating that if you do get permission, you should get it in writting to be covered.

[da Packer backer]

As you'll see below, I've copied and pasted the the places that you can not legally carry a hand gun according to the Texas State Hand Gun Law book. I recommend reading number 6. If you don't believe me, go to this link and scroll down to page number 40: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/ls-16.pdf





PC w6.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE
HOLDER. (a) A license holder commits an offense if the license
holder carries a handgun on or about the license holdets person
under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code,
and intentionally fails to conceal the handgun.
(b) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
of Subchapter H. Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
whether the handgun is concealed, on or about the license holder's
person:
(1) on the premises of a business that has a permit or license issued
under Chapter 25,28,32,69, or 74, Alcoholic Beverage Code, if
the business derives 51 percent or more of its income from the sale or
service of alcoholic beverages for on-premises consumption, as deter40
PCw.035. TEXAS CONCEALED HANDGUN LAWS
mined by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission under Section
104.06, Alcoholic Beverage Code;
(2) on the premises where a high school, collegiate, or professional
sporting event or interscholastic event is taking place, unless
the license holder is a participant in the event and a handgun is used
in the event;
(3) on the premises of a correctional facility;
(4) on the premises of a,hospital licensed under Chapter 241.
Health and Safety Code, or on the premises of a nursing home licensed
under Chapter 242, Health and Safety Code, unless the license
holder has written authorization of the hospital or nursing home
administration, as appropriate;
(5) in an amusement park; or
(6) on the premises of a church, synagogue, or other established
place of religious worship.
(c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally,
knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority
of Subchapter H. Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of
,whether the handgun is concealed, at any meeting of a governmental
entity.
(d) A license holder commits an offense if, while intoxicated, the
license holder carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H,
Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is
concealed.
(e) A license holder who is licensed as a security officer under
Chapter 1702. Occupations Code, and employed as a security officer
commits an offense if, while in the course and scope of the security
officer's employment, the security officer violates

[jimlongley]

As you'll see below, I've copied and pasted the the places that you can not legally carry a hand gun according to the Texas State Hand Gun Law book. I recommend reading number 6. If you don't believe me, go to this link and scroll down to page number 40: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/ls-16.pdf

You forgot one important section:

(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.

You can find it immediately under the section you provided the link to.

[da Packer backer]

Thanks. I should have kept reading.

[barres]

Thanks. I should have kept reading.

It seems most people stop reading before they get to clause (i). Don't beat yourself up over it.

[nitrogen]

That's kinda what I was saying above, ya know