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You know a lot of folks decide that the new year is a good time to try again to make that commitment to lose some weight. This usually doesn't work. Most people try a fad diet or join a fitness club and then eventually quit trying altogether, winding up in the same spot they started when the next new year rolls around. Here are some ideas that actually work.

First, I will write a new blog entry today that will contain more detail on this topic, so if you are serious about losing weight, I bet it will be worth your 10 minutes to visit my blog later today and read the post.

Here's the quick and dirty:

You gain weight for exactly and only one simple reason: you intake more calories than you expend over a given time (such as a day). The surplus of energy is stored as fat at a rate of 3500 calories per pound of fat. So if you burn 2000 calories each day, and you eat 2500 calories each day, then every 7 days you will add one pound of fat. The converse is also true. If you burn 2000 calories each day, and you only eat 1500 calories each day, then you will lose one pound of fat every week. It really is [almost] that simple.

Your body is going to be reluctant to burn fat, and prefer to slow down the rate of caloric output (your energy use) before dipping into the fat reserves. So when you eat less, you will feel like you have less energy. So in reality, if you burn 2000 calories each day, and then suddenly you start to eat only 1500 calories each day, your body is going to first respond to this new imbalance by turning down the throttle. You will feel less energetic and you will probably reduce your energy output each day unless you do something to actively maintain or elevate your energy output. This is called exercise. :mrgreen:

Your body and mind work together to trick you into eating at least as many calories worth of food each day as the amount you expend. So if your metabolic rate is 2000 calories per day, I guarantee you that you will intake at least 2000 calories per day unless you do something to intentionally measure and control your caloric intake. So you can't just decide you are going to only eat fresh fruits and vegetables plus steamed fish and expect to lose weight. You can't just say "no more cheesecake" and expect to lose weight. You mind will figure out a way to replace the cheesecake calories with fruit calories and you will continue without any change except maybe your general health might improve. It is possible to be very fit and also fat.

Simply put, you are not going to lose weight unless you intake fewer calories than you expend. If you intake fewer calories than you expend, then you will feel less energetic and you are going to have to do something to force your metabolic rate to stay high enough that your body has no other choice than to burn fat. The easiest way to do this is to begin the day with an hour or more of aerobic exercise. Get a heart rate monitor and calculate your estimated max (220 minus your age). Spend an hour or more at average 70% of your max heart rate and this should do the trick. If you do this in the morning before you eat anything then you will already be operating in your fat metabolism (since it has been many hours since you ate). This will kind of "jump start" your metabolism.

While you are doing this, you need a method to measure your metabolic rate, and then you need to deliberately control your calorie intake. Your brain is going to interpret different stimuli as "hungry". For example, I think most fat people think they are hungry if they are not "full". And most fat people feel like they are "starving" if they can sense ketones in their blood (ketones are a by-product of burning fat). You have to re-train yourself to interpret "full" as "stuffed", "not full" needs to feel normal, and you need to be able to tolerate extended periods of ketosis if you want to lose weight. In other words, you have to ignore your feeling of hunger, and eat based on a plan and not your impulses.

There are ways to measure your metabolic rate but until you get within about 20% of your ideal weight, or unless you are a trained athlete, it doesn't really matter. You can estimate. Assuming you have a relatively sedentary lifestyle (you are not an athlete, you work in an office), then you can use the following formula:

Men: 1.2 x [66 + (6.2 x wt in lb) + (12.7 x ht in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)]

Women: 1.2 x [655 + (4.4 x wt in lb) + (4.6 x ht in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)]

If you are more active than just "desk job", then you can probably increase the 1.2x up to maybe 1.4 unless you are a fitness nut, in which case you don't need to be reading this.

So let's say we have what I'd guess is our average TX CHL holder: 5'9" male, 230 lb, 35 years old.

1.2 x [66 + (6.2 x 230) + (12.7 x 69) - (6.8 x 35)] = 2556 calories/day metabolic rate.

Now make a plan for how quickly you want to lose weight, with a max of about 1% of your body weight per week. For this person that would be 2.3 lb per week. Since each lb of fat contains 3500 calories, then for each pound you want to lose per week, you need to reduce your caloric intake by 500 calories each day. So you calculate your daily calorie budget by subtracting the amount you need to cut from your metabolic rate:

daily calorie budget = metabolic rate - [(lb/week goal) x 500]

daily calorie budget = 2556 - (2.3 x 500) = 1406 calories/day

So now start reading those labels and counting calories. Figure out how you are going to get by on 1406 calories per day! That's probably half the food you are used to eating! But if you do this, you will definitely and absolutely lose the weight.

Here are some tips that lead to success:

1. don't eat anything with an unknown calorie content. Measure the food you cook and prepare with scales and measuring cups. Skip things that you can't nail down the nutritional information.

2. come up with a regular menu of stuff you like to eat with known calorie values. Always eat from that menu so you know your calorie content.

3. don't drink anything with calories. This includes milk, beer, sodas, gatorade...

4. skip desserts. they are not worth it. you'll eventually lose your appetite for them anyway.

5. identify high calorie-density foods and skip them. eat low calorie-density foods instead. like, eat a carrot instead of a tortilla. a carrot is more filling and has 1/4 the calories. a whole head of lettuce is only about 50 calories.

6. decide what you are going to eat, particularly if you are eating out, before you are hungry. then stick to that decision. so if you are going to pick up lunch at Wendy's, then go to their web site in the morning, read the nutrition info on their menu, and pick what you are going to order for lunch based on the calorie content and mix of protein, fat and carbohydrates. then when you go to lunch, don't read the menu, just order what you already decided to order.

7. increasing your exercise can dramatically increase your metabolic rate, which will allow you to eat more and still lose weight. Just as you can be fit and still be fat, you can very easily be thin and not at all fit. Losing weight won't make you fit. It takes daily exercise.

8. Log (write down) every single thing you eat, and record an accurate calorie count. An Excel spreadsheet will work, but so will a simple note pad you can carry in your pocket. This is a very critical, important step!

9. whatever you do, do it every single day.

Now after you lose the weight you wanted to lose, if you just quit counting calories and get back to an impulse-based diet, you will just gain the weight back again, at the same rate that you gained it in the first place. Odds are you are going to have to count calories and deliberately reduce your calorie intake for the rest of your life if you want to stay thin.
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mr.72 wrote: Odds are you are going to have to count calories and deliberately reduce your calorie intake for the rest of your life if you want to stay thin.
Yep.
And as you get older losing weight becomes more difficult because your body and your fat has had a longer time to become friends.
Thats my theory. :lol:
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If I did this correctly, I can have 1100 calories a day.

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This is a very informative post, sir. Do you mind me asking where you got all the information from? Not doubting you, I just was curious.
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I've actually started getting more exercise by walking around my pasture shooting random things. I figure walking an hour or two while shooting is good exercise.
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mr.72 wrote:3. don't drink anything with calories. This includes milk, beer, sodas, gatorade...
What? No beer? No way...I guess I'll have a cracker for breakfast, cracker for lunch and about a 6 pack for dinner, that should do it. "rlol"

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CodeJockey wrote:This is a very informative post, sir. Do you mind me asking where you got all the information from? Not doubting you, I just was curious.
Hmm. Well I accumulated this info, as well as a ton of other more detailed information, over the past decade or so from all kinds of sources and my own personal experience (losing 85 lb in 6 months in 2002) plus that of many other people who I have helped lose weight over that time period. At the present time, I am sort of in the process of writing a book on this topic. I need to get back to the book :)

It all started when I was training for a 24-hour mountain bike race, and I read the book Lactate Pulse-Rate Training by Peter Janssen

http://www.amazon.com/Training-Lactate- ... 9529006683" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Then I read another book called The Hacker's Diet by John Walker which you can read online here:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Of course I did a ton of other research. I also developed a predictive/measuring tool based loosely on John Walker's idea of moving averages (this uses Excel) as a means to log your calorie intake and weight, plot your progress, and interactively measure your metabolism and manage your diet and exercise. So you set goals and run a 6-month program and enter your weight and food daily and the spreadsheet calculates your metabolism on a daily basis, gives you an active calorie budget to stick to each day to accomplish your goals, and gives all kinds of data, graphs, etc. I kicked the idea around of launching an online service to do this for subscribers, and probably will do that if I ever finish the book.

There is a lot that I didn't cover in the little post above. I guess you I will have to finish the book then you'll have to buy it in order to get the whole story.
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Thanks for the update, and the original post!
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Purplehood wrote:If I did this correctly, I can have 1100 calories a day.
Really? Well, it can be done.

Over the 6 month period when I lost 85 lb I averaged losing 2.2 lb every week (over that time, about 1% of my body weight per week), and I averaged eating about 1700 calories/day. I did a whole lot of exercise (mountain biking 1-2hrs or more 5x per week plus lifting weights 3x per week) and felt better than I ever had in my whole life in terms of energy and my fitness.

So if you are sticking to the formula, not trying to lose more than 1% of your body weight per week and came up with 1100 calories, then that's it!

Once you start logging what you eat, and counting calories, you are likely going to be shocked at how many calories you were eating before.
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mr.72 wrote:
CodeJockey wrote:This is a very informative post, sir. Do you mind me asking where you got all the information from? Not doubting you, I just was curious.
Hmm. Well I accumulated this info, as well as a ton of other more detailed information, over the past decade or so from all kinds of sources and my own personal experience (losing 85 lb in 6 months in 2002) plus that of many other people who I have helped lose weight over that time period. At the present time, I am sort of in the process of writing a book on this topic. I need to get back to the book :)

It all started when I was training for a 24-hour mountain bike race, and I read the book Lactate Pulse-Rate Training by Peter Janssen

http://www.amazon.com/Training-Lactate- ... 9529006683" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Then I read another book called The Hacker's Diet by John Walker which you can read online here:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Of course I did a ton of other research. I also developed a predictive/measuring tool based loosely on John Walker's idea of moving averages (this uses Excel) as a means to log your calorie intake and weight, plot your progress, and interactively measure your metabolism and manage your diet and exercise. So you set goals and run a 6-month program and enter your weight and food daily and the spreadsheet calculates your metabolism on a daily basis, gives you an active calorie budget to stick to each day to accomplish your goals, and gives all kinds of data, graphs, etc. I kicked the idea around of launching an online service to do this for subscribers, and probably will do that if I ever finish the book.

There is a lot that I didn't cover in the little post above. I guess you I will have to finish the book then you'll have to buy it in order to get the whole story.

It sounds as if you have the experiential knowledge...

I will definitely footnote this information and learn from someone who has done it!
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Losing weight is relatively easy. Use almost any of the popular diets, Weight Watchers, Nutrisystem, adkins, south beach, etc and you can lose weight. BTW, they all operate on basically the same principle as identified by the OP, you take in fewer calories than you put out.

Keeping the weight off is the difficult piece because you tend to drift back into the same eating behavior that caused you to gain the weight in the first place. Over the last 30 years, I have lost close to 200 pounds in at least seven diets. I have always gained it back. My experience is consistent with a number of studies that show that somewhere around 60-70% of dieters gain back the weight they lost. Weight Watchers tends to work better than many other diets at keeping weight off because there is accountability to the group. However even with WW, a very large percentage of people regain their weight. I personnally have done it 3 times with WW. So I haven't found anybody with a silver bullet to solve this issue.

However on the good side, if you exercise regularly, i.e. stretching daily, strength conditioning 3-4 times a week and cardio exercise for 30 minutes 5 days a week, you can be fit and fat. If you exercise like that, you probably won't be as fat either. Since taking that approach with my last diet, while I gained back most of the weight I lost, I still am down about 15 pounds from my high point. Not the best solution but better than being unfit and fat and it is achievable.
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The only thing I would add to the OPs advise is to drink a lot of water and eat small meals/snacks 5-6 times a day instead of 3 regular meals. Both of these things will help boost your metabolism and keep it up.

Oh...and at rest, maintaining a lb of muscle will burn more calories than maintaining a lb of fat.
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stroo wrote: Keeping the weight off is the difficult piece because you tend to drift back into the same eating behavior that caused you to gain the weight in the first place. Over the last 30 years, I have lost close to 200 pounds in at least seven diets. I have always gained it back. My experience is consistent with a number of studies that show that somewhere around 60-70% of dieters gain back the weight they lost.
Well the real reason people regain the weight is because they did not fix or amend the underlying problem. They probably did not even identify or understand the underlying problem. They are aided by poor advice from so-called "experts". Many people like to think there is one or two little things, easily identifiable, that they can change and it will result in a permanent change in their body. It would be nice if this were true, but it is not.

Many people think the reason they were fat is because they ate the wrong kind of food. Too much cheeseburgers, candy, ice cream, french fries, whatever, soft drinks, whatever. So if they fix that, then they will go about being thin. Nope. There are some foods that if you radically restricted your diet to only include certain families of food, it would indeed be physically impossible or extremely improbable for you to eat more calories per day than you expend. In fact some foods actually normally require more calories to eat them than they give you in caloric value, such as celery or carrots.

Many other people think that the reason they were fat is because they didn't exercise, or exercise enough. So they add exercise to their routine and figure that will make them be thin from now on out. Nope. This won't work either, not for the vast majority of people.

OK, when I was 13, I played football and I was an avid cyclist. I lifted weights and worked out in football practice at school. I could bench press 200 lb and squat 400. I was 5'10" and about 200 lb. When I was 19, I was an avid cyclist, lived on my own and didn't eat much because I was broke. I was 5'11" and about 210 lb. When I was 29, I was still an avid cyclist, lifted weights, and even completed a 24-hour mountain bike race that year. I was 5'11" and 265 lb. So I gained 10 lb in 6 years between age 13 and 19, then 55 lb in 10 years between 19 and 29. I figure I gained 1/10 of a pound every week after age 20, steadily.

So what was wrong? How many extra calories do you have to eat each day to gain 1/10 of a pound every week? That's 70 calories per day.

70. Calories.

1.5 oreo cookies. 1/3 of a 12-oz soda. about 4 corn chips.

That's how much I have to cut from my diet in order to maintain my ideal weight. But unfortunately, if you don't measure your metabolism and count every calorie, this is way too small of a target to hit just by guessing.

So the real reason that most people gain the weight back is because they quit the diet when they are finished. Most fad diets will not result in long-term health if you keep doing them indefinitely. So you have to be able to come up with a solution that you can do from now on until the end of your life.

With my 6-month program, you can kind of go on the program for 6 months out of every couple of years. So if you gain 5 lb/year like a lot of folks do, then you are up 10 lb after two years and you go back on the program and lose that 10 lb in six months. No sweat. It's easy if you don't let it get out of hand. But if you gain 25 lb/year when off of the diet, then you really cannot afford to ever come off of it.

If I had the spreadsheet tool here this would make more sense. The tool allows you to enter your current weight (you weigh yourself every day) and you put in how many lb/week you want to lose. Then you log the calories you eat and the tool gives you a daily calorie budget based on its measurement of your metabolic rate and the rate at which you want to lose weight. If you stick to the calorie budget, then you will lose weight like clockwork. If you put in "0" for the number of lb/week you want to lose, then the tool still gives you a budget but the budget is equal to your metabolic rate, so you will maintain your weight.
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RiveraRa wrote:The only thing I would add to the OPs advise is to drink a lot of water and eat small meals/snacks 5-6 times a day instead of 3 regular meals. Both of these things will help boost your metabolism and keep it up.
IMHO, this is not true, not in my experience. Your metabolism is not affected significantly by the frequency that you eat, at least within the boundaries of normal food. Whether you eat one 1500 calorie meal or 15 100 calorie meals makes no significant difference, when you are losing weight. This is because you are going to be sustained on burning body fat most of the time and every single one of us has a supply of body fat that will run your body at your BMR for a long, long time even if you don't eat at all.

Also, drinking more water than you need to avoid dehydration is of no benefit, except that you may increase your metabolic rate by having to walk to the restroom more often.

If you are dehydrated then you will tend to retain water and you will see big fluctuations in your day-to-day weight. If you are consistently hydrated then your weight will be more stable and you will not retain water.
Oh...and at rest, maintaining a lb of muscle will burn more calories than maintaining a lb of fat.
I think this is a moot statement. It is beside the point. You are not going to replace pounds of fat one for one with pounds of muscle, and you absolutely will not do so without making other much more significant changes in your body's fitness that will have dramatic effect on your BMR.

This is a common error to confuse cause with correlation.

If you take a 6' tall, 220 lb fat couch potato, and measure their basal metabolic rate, then compare that with the BMR of a 6' tall, 220 lb super-fit athlete, then yes. The athlete will have a much higher BMR than the couch potato. But there is a lot more to it than how many calories pounds of fat burn vs. pounds of muscle. The muscle man doesn't get that way without being way more active.

And another point is that if you lose pounds of fat, you will also lose muscle. You cannot avoid this unless for every pound of fat you lose, you add a pound of ballast that you carry with you 100% of the time even when sleeping. So if you want to wear a weight vest 24/7 even in the shower and put a plate in it every time you lose 5 lb then you MIGHT be able to maintain your pre-diet muscle mass. More than likely you are going to lose a lot of muscle, mostly from your legs, because you don't have to lift as fat of a body and haul it around so your legs get less of a workout as you lose weight. It hardly matters in the end. But remember that your legs have the largest muscle groups of your whole body.

On the same note you will also lose bone mass, as well as water weight (which is lean body mass) and even skin, as you lose fat. So your weight loss is not 100% fat. When I was doing my weight program I set the tool to 2.0 lb/week and I lost 2.2 lb/week. That extra .2 lb is a combination of water, muscle, bone mass, skin, etc. that I lost every week.
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CainA wrote:
mr.72 wrote:3. don't drink anything with calories. This includes milk, beer, sodas, gatorade...
What? No beer? No way...I guess I'll have a cracker for breakfast, cracker for lunch and about a 6 pack for dinner, that should do it. "rlol"

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