Conagher wrote:frazzled wrote:Conagher wrote:frazzled wrote: How do we avoid police chiefs instructed their forces to hammer down on anyone using OC?
I think there are a few civil rights law suits that addressed this very thing in other states. The settlement $$ seemed to get their attention.
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Conagher
How again? Unless you're dscriminating against a protected class, how would you support such an action?
Reasonable suspicion that anyone walking down the street with a pistol could easily be sustained.
I think that is their case. If it is legal to do so, how can it be deemed "reasonable suspicion"; appears more like "harassment".
Below is an article on one of the cases, right next door in Louisiana. I think I read somewhere the "undisclosed amount" was $10K.
Gonzales settles gun-carrying man’s lawsuit
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Mark Marchiafava wears his gun Friday near a mall where he was arrested by Gonzales police in 2006. The charge for illegal carrying of a weapon later was dismissed. City officials recently paid Marchiafava an undisclosed amount to settle his civil rights suit. Marchiafava continues to carry his pistol in a holster on his hip.
By BILL LODGE
Advocate staff writer
Published: Aug 31, 2008 - UPDATED: 12:05 a.m.
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Mark Marchiafava says he’s earned the right to wear his .357-caliber Magnum pistol in a hip holster in Gonzales.
And, he says at a local mall, city residents paid him to demonstrate that right.
“I wish the taxpayers of Gonzales knew just how much money it is,” the 55-year-old Marchiafava adds.
In January 2006, the longtime Baton Rouge resident was at the same mall, wearing the same pistol, when a Gonzales police officer asked him why he was carrying a gun.
Marchiafava says he told the officer that non-felons can legally carry firearms that are not concealed.
That exchange led to Marchiafava’s arrest on a count of illegal carrying of a weapon. The arrest led to an hours-long stay at the Ascension Parish Prison.
But the case later was dismissed, and Marchiafava’s bond and weapon were returned to him.
Marchiafava didn’t let the dispute fade away. He sued for violation of his constitutional right to bear arms. The city recently settled the case by paying Marchiafava an undisclosed amount of money.
“I can’t disclose any client confidences,” said Bradley C. Myers, a Baton Rouge attorney for the Gonzales Police Department. “The details are confidential, not the fact of the settlement.”
So why pay Marchiafava?
“It was just a business decision that everybody makes during a civil suit,” Myers said.
“There are risks in all litigation and costs to defend litigation,” Myers said, adding that city officials weighed those risks and costs before opting for a settlement.
Marchiafava won’t talk dollars and cents, either.
“The confidentiality agreement prevents me from disclosing that amount,” Marchiafava said.
But he said the settlement would “buy someone a brand-new motorcycle.”
“All of this could have been avoided,” Marchiafava said. “I kept telling them: ‘Don’t arrest me.’”
After his arrest, Marchiafava said, Police Chief Bill Landry told other people: “‘We have a policy of arresting anybody carrying any type of firearm without a concealed-gun permit.’
“It’s not the people who are openly carrying weapons that you need to worry about,” Marchiafava said. “It’s the people who carry concealed guns that you need to be concerned about.”
Marchiafava said he remains concerned that someone else may someday be arrested under similar circumstances because: “In Gonzales, the law is whatever the cops say it is.”
That’s not correct, Chief Landry said.
“We will follow the law as prescribed,” Landry said, adding that the law permits carrying a firearm in an unconcealed holster. But Landry will not discuss the case further.
“I’ve got no comment on that,” Landry said. “I’ve got no comment.”
Donald North, a professor at Southern University Law Center, said Marchiafava has the legal right to carry a firearm in a holster on his hip.
North says carrying the firearm in that manner falls under the same law that requires hunters to keep their shotguns and rifles on gun racks visible through the rear windows of their vehicles.
“If you’re not concealing it, the statute does not prohibit your carrying of that weapon,” North explained.
“This only applies to law-abiding citizens,” the professor said. “Convicted felons can’t do this.”
North adds that he is merely explaining the law, not advocating a particular behavior.
“I’m not trying to suggest we should go back to the days of the Wild West,” North said.
Marchiafava says he does not regret carrying the pistol — even when it draws unwelcome attention from police officers.
He says other people should exercise their right to lawfully carry firearms.
“When they (police officers) shoved a gun in my face, I was thinking: ‘These guys are dangerous.’
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