Why Not for CHL too?

So, your CHL Application has been filed and the clock has slowed to a crawl - tell us about it!

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Why Not for CHL too?

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DPS spokeswoman Tela Mange said more workers had been added to the driver’s license machines and the state should be caught up in a couple of weeks
So wait.. did they hire more workers? and If so... why can't they do the same for the CHL side? :mad5

And they were only going ONE MONTH behind! :waiting:
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I thought they were printed on the same machine.
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IMO They should be in the same queue as well!

Noone gets a new or renewal driver's license until the current queue of CHL's get mailed out :)

Make it all one pile... Watch how fast it speeds up :smash:
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I don't like the delay either but I don't think the bottleneck is printing the plastic.
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No, neither do I. I'm just saying that if they can hire people to fix any kind of delay problem for DL's, why can't they do the same for CHL's?
IMO, there is a 1-2 month 'delay' that can be resolved by hiring more staff at DPS in Austin.

We know that there are 2 definitive causes of delay.

1. "The Pile"
This is where your application sits from the say it is received until the day your status changes to 'processing application'
This time is averaging around 30-60 days or so, according to the information people are posting in the 'waiting room' threads
From what we know, applications in "The Pile" are processed in a FIFO order, and speed is totally limited by how many people they have doing it.
Would hiring more people help here? IMO, Definitely!

2. "The BG Check"
This is after DPS has done their schpiel, and sends it to the county or counties.
I agree, more DPS workers in Austin are not going to fix this problem, since as of Right now, only commissioned officers can perform the BG Checks
However, in September, That changes! And staffers of the county can perform the checks as well.
So hopefully, this delay will soon be resolved or at least shortened.
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For now they still have no control over delays in the FBI check.
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There are not any delays with the FBI background check...They are being returned within their allotted amount of time. The delays are at beginning of processing level, and at the county level with the local background checks.
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DrinkRaiderade wrote:There are not any delays with the FBI background check...They are being returned within their allotted amount of time. The delays are at beginning of processing level, and at the county level with the local background checks.
:iagree:
What he said.
There is plenty of places for improvement in the current process.

I just find it... unsatisfactory to me, that they are all about hiring people when DL's get backed up, but when CHL's do, even past their LEGAL deadline, they still do not attempt to do anything about it.
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dicion wrote:No, neither do I. I'm just saying that if they can hire people to fix any kind of delay problem for DL's, why can't they do the same for CHL's?
IMO, there is a 1-2 month 'delay' that can be resolved by hiring more staff at DPS in Austin.

Diction, I can answer that in three simple words:

They Don't Care
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Their opinion shouldn't matter. I don't care if they like the idea of CHL's or not, or if they don't care at all.
They can go preach anti-gun nonsense on weekends outside wal-mart for all I care.

Issuing CHLs is (one of) their jobs. In the non-govt world, if, say, they were a contractor, if they did not meet the requirements of their job, they would be fired and replaced, possibly even taken to court.

Why we accept this from the Government, when we would not even fathom accepting it from someone we paid to, say, fix our Air Conditioning, I do not know.

They are required to meet certain deadlines, by law, and are not meeting those requirements. Plain and simple.
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dicion wrote:Their opinion shouldn't matter. I don't care if they like the idea of CHL's or not, or if they don't care at all.
They can go preach anti-gun nonsense on weekends outside wal-mart for all I care.

Issuing CHLs is (one of) their jobs. In the non-govt world, if, say, they were a contractor, if they did not meet the requirements of their job, they would be fired and replaced, possibly even taken to court.

Why we accept this from the Government, when we would not even fathom accepting it from someone we paid to, say, fix our Air Conditioning, I do not know.

They are required to meet certain deadlines, by law, and are not meeting those requirements. Plain and simple.

Dont get me wrong, I agree with you, but the simple fact is that they really don't care how long it takes to get a chl processed and no amount of screaming, hollering and jumping up and down is going to change that, the reason they reacted so quickly on the DL's is that there are alot more peolple with a dl than with a chl, and as the saying goes, the squeeky wheel is the one that gets the grease.
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Re: Why Not for CHL too?

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Then we need to squeak more :mrgreen:
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dicion wrote:Then we need to squeak more :mrgreen:
squeek away, believe me I know how you feel, it took 6 months for my plastic to come in.
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Regardless of how loudly you/we squeak, the number of DLs/applicants/renewals is greater than the number of CHLs/applicants/renewals by at least an order of magnitude.

There's strength in numbers and the drivers have the numbers, all over us.
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Re: Why Not for CHL too?

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hheremtp wrote:
dicion wrote:Then we need to squeak more :mrgreen:
squeek away, believe me I know how you feel, it took 6 months for my plastic to come in.
I believe Charles has some plans in the works to do some louder squeaking for us in the form of legal action.
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