Town Hall Meetings for Naught?

[roberts]

I stayed up watching this last night and went to bed elated at the vote.

I realized 220 members of Congress just voted themselves out of a job. That put a smile on my face.

How long will that smile last when you realize the DC tax thieves will get relected easily because they bought the votes of the chronically unemployed, the welfare moms, the illegal aliens, the Hollywood elite with good attorneys and accountants, and other groups that pay little to no taxes.

[joe817]

I've just found a deeper respect for Sarah Palin than I had for her during the elections.

It is difficult for me to find the words to express my feelings right now. But they come close to what stevie_d_64 said in his above post. REMEMBER THIS DAY......and vote your conscience next November.

[RocTrac]

My Vote will reflect this, I am just hopeing that it will not be to late. After reading some of the responses from the Senitors (both R and D) there will still be more ammendments to the bill. I just hope that our Senate can stop this. This morning was a supprise and a dissapointment, sneaking the bill through at Midnight on a weekend is not right. We need to be on the look out because if the 20 million illegals are allowed to vote then this will be a much harder fight than we think.

[Liberty]

I've just found a deeper respect for Sarah Palin than I had for her during the elections.

It is difficult for me to find the words to express my feelings right now. But they come close to what stevie_d_64 said in his above post. REMEMBER THIS DAY......and vote your conscience next November.

The problem is most of us DONn't live in a district run by the socialists. Our guys tend to be the ones doing the right thing.. Sometimes I think the only options we have might be the things we aren't allowed to talk about on this forum.

[The Annoyed Man]

I am not worried about being complacent, I am more interested in what can be done to stop this. I have been in contact with the office stating my concerns etc... I don't believe that a Texas Senitor is going to vote for this but it is the other states that worry me. Obama seems to think that its in the bag already. Does he know something we don't? If this does pass, will our next Pres. be able to overturn it before it is to late? How far can the States go in resisting this? I don't believe that declaring State Soverty is going to be enough to keep the Federal looters at bay.

I don't think there is much at this point that citizens can do except to write their senators and representatives, telling them that they will make it our mission in life to see them removed from office if they vote in favor of the democrat healthcare bill. It likely won't work, because as soon as senators and representatives got back to the "safety" of inside the beltway, they stopped paying even lip service to what all those townhall meetings wanted to hear from them. They simply don't care about the citizens, except to the extent that a citizen's vote can get or keep them elected. They only care about their jobs, with all the perks, including the Cadillac taxpayer funded healthcare plans that you and I have no access to. So you can't appeal to their ethical responsibility to represent your interests, because they have no ethics and they don't give a rip about your interests. The only thing you can do is threaten their continued employment.

That said, first the House bill has to be reconciled with the Senate bill before it can be sent to Obama's desk for signature into law. Harry Reid has indicated that the Senate version will not likely be ready before year's end. Also, the Senate, even thought it is populated with a whole lot of people whose politics are left of center, is historically a somewhat more sober and less hasty body than the House. Joe Lieberman, an Independent, normally caucuses with the Democrats, but he has already announced that he will not support a Senate bill that includes the "public option." Reid has only 60 votes, and at least one of them - Lieberman - is shaky. And then there are the Blue Dog democrats whom Reid has to convince to go along. So Reid can't even really count on 59 votes. In that kind of environment, Republican procedural tactics can so thoroughly tie up the bill as to make it a distinct possibility that the Senate will not pass a bill; or at least if they do, that it will be so far different from the House bill that the two cannot be reconciled. And if that is the case, a reconciled bill will never make Obama's desk for signature into law.

Lastly, as horrible as the possibility is, what can be done, can also be undone. If Democrats succeed in ramming a healthcare bill down the throats of an electorate who overwhelmingly don't want it, they're all going to get fired anyway; so even that dark cloud has a silver lining. When they do get fired, we'll get a more conservative congress, and they can reverse a lot of the damage done. The other good news is that, between cap & trade, healthcare reform, and bailouts, Democrats will have so thoroughly discredited themselves as being trustworthy with government responsibility that they will be unelectable for the next 50 years... ...or until a new party leadership tells the nutroots "enough!" or we'll die as a party.

[joe817]

Well put TAM. I totally agree with you.

[pdubyoo]

Hmmm...Let's see how the guv'ment stacks-up.

Social Security...Failed
Post Office...Failed
Fannie Mae...Failed
Freddie Mac...Failed
Bank Bailout...Failed
Auto Industry Bailout...Failed
Cash for Clunkers...Failed
Overall Economy...Failed
Foreign Policy...Failed
MY TRUST...FAILED

Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's let the DC Thugs run our healthcare system!

I will be such a "community activist" over the next 12 months, it will put Obama's C-A record to shame!!!

[Drewthetexan]

(...) MY TRUST...FAILED (...)

Pretty much. But then I don't think we were ever meant to trust our own government. Seems implicit, especially with the 2A, that we were to be watchful and weary of our elected leaders.

Problem is, our political parties are like hydras, and cutting off one figure-head doesn't solve the problem. DNC and GOP just prop up new heads for us to vote for, or against, as it were. The problem isn't our ability to 86 our leaders, but our ability to 86 those who pull the strings.