A Right To Healthcare

[Purplehood]

I am sure that our Senators and Congresspersons are aware of this and choose to ignore it.

[Abraham]

Today the quality of public schooling is dreadful.

Public education in Texas means primarily teaching to pass the TAKS test at the expense of overall learning.

Self esteem is set as a major goal at the expense of learning.

Problem students aren't dealt with at the detriment of what teaching there is to be offered.

Drugs and violence are common in public schools.

Police have to be stationed in public schools.

Required text books are loaded with a left leaning slant on history.

What's not to like?

(I wouldn't let my dog attend a public school)

[WildBill]

(I wouldn't let my dog attend a public school)

That would be cruelty to animals.

[frazzled]

Today the quality of public schooling is dreadful.

Public education in Texas means primarily teaching to pass the TAKS test at the expense of overall learning.

Self esteem is set as a major goal at the expense of learning.

Problem students aren't dealt with at the detriment of what teaching there is to be offered.

Drugs and violence are common in public schools.

Police have to be stationed in public schools.

Required text books are loaded with a left leaning slant on history.

What's not to like?

(I wouldn't let my dog attend a public school)

Your source for this is what again?

The school system my children attend has none of the nonsense you just spoke of. They routinely obliterate private schools in interscholastic competitions.

[longtooth]

OK folks original topic is Right To Health Care not the public schools. Get it back on topic or it will be locked.

[Purplehood]

Deleated.
Get it off the schools & back on topic or it will be locked. Last warning.
LT

[Purplehood]

Deleated.
Get it off the schools & back on topic or it will be locked. Last warning.
LT

That looks like the only warning received. Thank you for the highly embarassing response to such an obviously heated issue.

[Dave01]

So I was reading Neal's "Nuze" today and I ran across an argument I hadn't quite put together myself.

Neal wrote an article about healthcare here: http://www.ajc.com/opinion/neal-boortz- ... 96817.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Following that, the letter to the editor below was published in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

"POLITICAL RIGHTS

Clearly, Boortz will give up some of his 'rights'

I was startled and immensely delighted to read Neal Boortz's column ("Moochers need free-market dose," Opinion, Nov. 14). Startled at his novel definition of a "right" as excluding anything that involves a second of someone else's labor or skills.

I am delighted that he has voluntarily given up his right to bear arms -- unless he mines the ore, forges the steel and makes the guns himself in his backyard. After all, he cannot lay claims to the skill of the workers at the Colt factory, can he? Even then, I am not sure he has that right, unless he designs the gun and its firing mechanism. Oh, and he also has to figure out the laws of thermodynamics that govern explosions -- all by himself, without the help of his science teacher.

Obviously, this also means Miranda rights are also kaput for all except lawyers. Right to freedom from illegal search and seizure? Forget it. Where do I get off demanding the time of a cop to protect me from a break-in? "Clearly I nailed this 'right to health care thing,' '' he says. Clearly.

Suresh Krishnamoorthy, Marietta"

Failing as it does to make a logical argument, it presents a great counter-argument that was not illustrated to me until now (real face-palm moment for me).

If we have a "right" to health care that the gov'ment is responsible to provide for, do we all get free guns and ammo too?

The first amendment does not give us the right to free speech; it prevents the government from taking it away. The second amendment does not give us the right to keep and bear arms; it prevents the government from taking it away. The concept of a “right” to healthcare does mean “you owe us healthcare”; it means “do not prevent us from getting healthcare”. As TAM mentioned, the “right”’ to healthcare is simply about access.

There is a belief that a “right” is something that the government must provide. I think the OP highlighted the absurdity of this belief by suggesting that the government must provide us all with guns and ammo. The RKBA is a “right” after all, and a constitutional one at that. I wonder how quickly the proponents of government provided healthcare as a “right” would change their tune if, by this definition, the government also had to send a firearm to every US citizen. I think their definition of a “right” would quickly become unpalatable.

Dave

[The Annoyed Man]

BTW, as a semi-amusing sidebar...

I was at my urologist's office this morning, having a PSA drawn, and they had the following taped to the counter top where you pay up on the way out. I asked them to print me a copy of it, and it goes like this:

From Henry Birdwell:

Let me get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it...

...signed by a president who also hasn't read it, and who smokes...

...with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes...

...overseen by a surgeon general who is obese...

...and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong?

That about sums it up for me. As far as I am concerned, they are playing with OUR money, not the government's money; and I don't care how necessary or good a thing may be, if you (the senator or representative) refuse to read it and you ridicule me for insisting that you do... ...and you have no idea of everything that's in it or what it will actually cost the taxpayer.... ....and you still vote for it? You do that, and I'm going to do everything in my power to see to it that you are unemployed in 2010 and 2012. Then you can know a little bit of what it is like for the rest of us...

...EXCEPT that even after we The People fire your skanky butt, you still get to have your cushy taxpayer provided health insurance and retirement plan; while the rest of us get bupkis except being rid of your narrow behind.

But I'm not BITTER or anything!

[frazzled]

BTW, as a semi-amusing sidebar...

I was at my urologist's office this morning, having a PSA drawn, and they had the following taped to the counter top where you pay up on the way out. I asked them to print me a copy of it, and it goes like this:

From Henry Birdwell:

Let me get this straight...

We're going to pass a health care plan written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts itself from it...

...signed by a president who also hasn't read it, and who smokes...

...with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes...

...overseen by a surgeon general who is obese...

...and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong?

That about sums it up for me. As far as I am concerned, they are playing with OUR money, not the government's money; and I don't care how necessary or good a thing may be, if you (the senator or representative) refuse to read it and you ridicule me for insisting that you do... ...and you have no idea of everything that's in it or what it will actually cost the taxpayer.... ....and you still vote for it? You do that, and I'm going to do everything in my power to see to it that you are unemployed in 2010 and 2012. Then you can know a little bit of what it is like for the rest of us...

...EXCEPT that even after we The People fire your skanky butt, you still get to have your cushy taxpayer provided health insurance and retirement plan; while the rest of us get bupkis except being rid of your narrow behind.

But I'm not BITTER or anything!