There's hope: I successfully corrupted both of my kids!joe817 wrote:OldSchool, that went out of vogue when we were in high school.OldSchool wrote:Heh, you've described IMHO the ideal purpose for a real political system (as opposed to a bully, or snatch-and-grab political system...).I was going to say something glorious here about incrementally improving the laws through mutual respect and give-and-take, but it seemed corny for this day-and-age (and I am Old School), so I gave up....
My how times have changed.
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Life is for learning.
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Find a job in the private sector? Move to Russia?OldSchool wrote:They can also simply, if the CHL program is too much trouble, .... (I can't say it.)
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Well shoot!!! Messed it up!
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Re: Utah CHL
boomerang wrote:Find a job in the private sector? Move to Russia?OldSchool wrote:They can also simply, if the CHL program is too much trouble, .... (I can't say it.)
That's a thought, but no, I was thinking of something too horrible to contemplate for we of the CHL community, but also would be perfectly acceptable to the anti's.
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Re: Utah CHL
Let's try this again... sorry
My daughter carries under Utah non-resident. One reason...and one reason only. Cost. The Utah permit cost 65 bucks(roughly) and the half day class cost 75. That is a grand total of 140 American dollars. The Texas class... 120 dollars...100 rounds of ammo 30 dollars.... fee for Texas 140 dollars... that would be a grand total of 290 American dollars. That would be a double folks. Now my daughter is married and her husband also carries under Utah. Yep...double again!!! For a husband and wife team to have a license(to do what the constitution already says they can do
), the total cost for a Texas CHL is 580 dollars. The total for Utah is 280 dollars. I realize some folks think a three hundred dollar difference is no big deal, but to working folks it is a big deal.
I would also challenge those that say they think the Texas class is somehow better because it requires a shooting session, to show me where in the constitution it says one must first prove one is worthy before one can exercise their RKBA. As my second statement about this "shooting test" I will just suggest folks go through some of the posts on this forum and read some of the stories about complete newbies passing this test. Sorry folks...it just ain't that difficult shooting a firearm. I watched a guy go from not knowing how to hold the pistol to making 4 inch groups at 15 ft just two nights ago. It took him about 5 minutes.
In my rant I forgot the coolest part. Utah permit... 10 dollar renewal...no class. Texas....Class for another 75 bucks minimum another 100 rounds at 30 bucks... another half day down the toilet...and 70 bucks to the State... that is 275 dollars... WOW!!!! 10 dollars vs 275 dollars???
My daughter carries under Utah non-resident. One reason...and one reason only. Cost. The Utah permit cost 65 bucks(roughly) and the half day class cost 75. That is a grand total of 140 American dollars. The Texas class... 120 dollars...100 rounds of ammo 30 dollars.... fee for Texas 140 dollars... that would be a grand total of 290 American dollars. That would be a double folks. Now my daughter is married and her husband also carries under Utah. Yep...double again!!! For a husband and wife team to have a license(to do what the constitution already says they can do
I would also challenge those that say they think the Texas class is somehow better because it requires a shooting session, to show me where in the constitution it says one must first prove one is worthy before one can exercise their RKBA. As my second statement about this "shooting test" I will just suggest folks go through some of the posts on this forum and read some of the stories about complete newbies passing this test. Sorry folks...it just ain't that difficult shooting a firearm. I watched a guy go from not knowing how to hold the pistol to making 4 inch groups at 15 ft just two nights ago. It took him about 5 minutes.
In my rant I forgot the coolest part. Utah permit... 10 dollar renewal...no class. Texas....Class for another 75 bucks minimum another 100 rounds at 30 bucks... another half day down the toilet...and 70 bucks to the State... that is 275 dollars... WOW!!!! 10 dollars vs 275 dollars???
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