Mayor Daley appeals to World Court.

[VoiceofReason]

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“This week, Daley called for “redress against the gun industry” in the World Court, in The Hague, Netherlands. Forgetting or not caring who his constituents are, Daley blurted “This is coming from international mayors. They’re saying, ‘We’re tired of your guns, America.’”

Sounds like Mayor Daley should seek psychiatric care. I also wonder about those people in Chicago that elected him and continue to allow him to remain in office.

Why is the NRA (I am a member) fighting for the rights of these people when the majority will not do it for themselves?

If I lived in Chicago I would move out and leave the asylum to the patients.

[joe817]

Thanks for posting VoR.

To add to the quote: "It’s a sad day in America when lawmakers would rather turn to National Guard patrols of city streets than to allow law-abiding citizens the choice to legally own and carry firearms for self-defense."

It is indeed. This sounds familiar: "We have outlawed your guns to keep you safe. Since that hasn't worked, we are wanting to send in military troops to keep you safe." Is history trying to repeat itself?

[Fangs]

“I love the Second Amendment,” Nutter recently said, but “I have a First Amendment right not to be shot.”

Huh?

[BobCat]

I'm so sorry... y'all have to have lived there to understand... it is all about power. It is not about rights or laws or constitutions or even about "keeping the streets safe" - it is all about whose streets they are, and who can walk them unmolested. There are a lot of decent, honorable, hard-working law enforcement officers here. You are spoiled - the norms in other places can be quite different.

Back in High School, did you study history and read about the Feudal System? You pledge to support the head man, and he pledges to have his thugs keep trouble away from you. Like, you contribute to the Party, support the Party, and your kids come straight home from school, safe and sound.

The Chicago Blackhawks hockey team played at a place called the Chicago Stadium, when I was there (probably still do). Very nice neighborhood [/irony]... when you parked in the lot, some nice youngsters would come up and ask for some money to "watch yo' ca'" - and if you paid them, your windows would be intact, radio, wheels and tires in place, no damage when you returned.

I am not exactly bashing Chicago, just saying that there is a big-city mentality that the power structure is as it is, and you buck it at your own risk. There is a perception that the police have "a badge and a gun" and that's what sets them apart from the common folk. The "gun" is seen as an icon of power - a kind of badge in and of itself - and nobody but part of the power structure gets to have one.

There will always be a Mayor Daley in Chicago. Some things don't change. Count your blessings that you're here, not there.

Regards,
Andrew

[VoiceofReason]

Reply to BobCat

Thanks for the reply. I don’t know about being spoiled, but I had forgotten how things are in some other places. The situation with paying someone to watch your car used to exist in Nuevo Laredo. I don’t know if it still does or not. In some places even in Texas, power is also first and foremost to be challenged at your own risk.

Texans are a little more independent and self reliant than folks in some other parts of the country and most still have a strong sense of right and wrong.

In order to have freedom, one must be willing to fight for that freedom and to make whatever sacrifice is necessary to win and maintain that freedom. In most cases one person cannot do it alone or even a small group cannot succeed without the support of the majority.

The power structure in Chicago or any state in the union, or country in the world, could not continue to exist without the majority of its citizens being too afraid or complacent to challenge it. Your post describing Chicago could easily fit Mexico or some other third world country.

The citizens of Chicago should stand up and make it clear to the city government who really holds the power. Texans are not fortunate, lucky or blessed. Texans have been willing to fight and sacrifice to gain independence from Mexico and forge the greatest state in the union.

I am not saying Texans have any more courage than those living in Chicago or any other place in the U.S. I am however wondering how much worse the situation has to get before the citizens stand up and take back their city.

I am in no way advocating violence as a means to these ends, but maybe it is high time the voters got rid of the “Mayor Daleys” of this country. They owe that to their children and grandchildren.

I will now step down from my soap box and take my blood pressure medication.

[surprise_i'm_armed]

Isn't it the setup for a comedy piece that the Mayor
of a major American city is whining to foreigners about
what Americans should do?

If Mayor Daley's flawed policies were any good, would
the majority of the states have millions of CHL's who
are peacefully going about their daily business ARMED??

March 2, 2010 was the date that the NRA lawyers argued
before the US Supreme Court in "McDonald vs. Chicago" and
"NRA vs. Chicago". Even the Gray Lady, the NY Times,
opined that SCOTUS appeared to be favoring the NRA
stance on gun rights.

IIRC, SCOTUS usually releases a batch of their decisions
in late June each year, just before they take their long
summer hiatus.

If SCOTUS supports the 2A rights of Illinois citizens, that
will be a super sweet piece of news. Maybe Daley will become
apopleptic and keel over, DRT!!

SIA

[The Annoyed Man]

If I lived in Chicago I would move out and leave the asylum to the patients.

Unfortunately, the craziest one in the asylum did just that. He lives in D.C. now. 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., if you must know.

[VoiceofReason]

If I lived in Chicago I would move out and leave the asylum to the patients.

Unfortunately, the craziest one in the asylum did just that. He lives in D.C. now. 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., if you must know.

Hence my tag line!

[03Lightningrocks]

I had the pleasure of visiting some of the more liberal states when I was drag racing. One thing I noticed about them. They see Government as a friend or even as a parent type figure. They seem to believe the government is there to save them in case they have trouble. The last thing they want to do is rebel against the very entity they have come to rely on so heavily. It is like a different country when you travel to the east coast. Never been to the west coast as I would rather die than go there. I always missed the races in Kali as I had no desire to experience communism first hand. I can only imagine how Chicago is the same.

Some of the shadiest most unethical people I have ever come across resided in the Northeast. There will not come a day when people of that part of our nation will ever rise up against government tyranny. It will have to come from the South. The people of Chicago like the way things are done there. This is why they don't rebel against it. They truly believe the Government is only looking out for their best interests.

[VoiceofReason]

Good point 03Lightningrocks. I will never understand this way of thinking, but it is a good point never the less.

I suppose I am unable to understand this way of thinking because for as long as I can remember, I have questioned authority and insisted upon thinking for myself, even as a child. Many times this has been to my detriment.

[BobCat]

Yes, 03Lightningrocks makes a very good point. Many people value the power structure because they derive benefit from it. For instance, there is zoning in Chicago, which leads to distinct neighborhoods and physically separates the (at least moderately) well-off from the have-nots. There is very little street crime in "good" neighborhoods so nobody who "has" anything wants or needs a gun with which to defend themselves. Guns are for police and bad people. In "bad" neighborhoods the gangs rule.

To some extent this seems like a consequence of the way the country was settled. People came over from "the old country" (Europe most of the time) and those who settled in cities settled near each other in ethnic enclaves. These formed neighborhoods, and the hierarchies descended from the old country took root - a hollywood example is the movie "The Godfather" - the mob power structure worked with the official power structure, sometimes antagonistic and sometimes in parallel. Others stopped in the cities only to outfit for the wagon-train West and became pioneers. There is a reason that the idea of taking care of yourself instead of asking the government to is called the "pioneer spirit".

Anyway, I'm not bashing Chicago. I miss many things - the Museum of Science and Industry, Blues music, certain regional/ethnic foods, and the cooperative spirit that can come out during, say, a blizzard. People help each other out. Yes, someone might get shot for taking a parking place that someone else laboriously shoveled clean - but if you get stuck in the slush, people will put their stuff down and come over to push your car out and get you going.

Sorry to ramble. Lightning is right that people get the government they want, and they want it because it gives them something.

Regards,
Andrew