Concealed Weapon Carrier Arrested in Kenosha, WI

WildBill · Post by **WildBill** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:39 pm

This story is a bit bizzare. David Hein was carrying a weapon while attending a church festival. Visitors at the festival noticed Hein had a gun underneath his shirt while walking around with his dog. A man took the gun from Hein because he believed Hein was drunk and he feared that Hein may do something to hurt them.

The people at the festival who detained Hein said they hid his gun and put it in a grill to keep him from it.

Smart move! I hope it wasn't on.

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PUCKER · Post by **PUCKER** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:56 pm

I didn't know that WI had CHL....

Post by **Charles L. Cotton** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:02 pm

PUCKER wrote:I didn't know that WI had CHL....

Wisconsin doesn't have a CHL statute. The guy was UCW.

Chas.

WildBill · Post by **WildBill** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:09 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
PUCKER wrote:I didn't know that WI had CHL....
Wisconsin doesn't have a CHL statute. The guy was UCW.
Chas.

Thanks. Topic title was edited.

redlin67 · Post by **redlin67** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:12 pm

"The Browning handgun had a loaded magazine and one loose round of ammunition, which was in the chamber of the pistol."

One in the pipe counts as a loose round?

WildBill · Post by **WildBill** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:29 pm

If "visitors at the festival noticed Hein walking around ... and realized he had a gun underneath his shirt" how could he be arrested for having a concealed weapon?

By the time police arrived his handgun was "in a grill". I have read this statement hundreds of times on the forum: "Concealed means Concealed". Is this a case of "UnConcealed means Concealed"?

MojoTexas · Post by **MojoTexas** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:40 pm

redlin67 wrote:"The Browning handgun had a loaded magazine and one loose round of ammunition, which was in the chamber of the pistol."

One in the pipe counts as a loose round?

Hey, at least they called it a magazine and not a "clip".

hangfour · Post by **hangfour** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:22 pm

Strange story! Alcohol, guns, and a church picnic. What a mix!

Hoi Polloi · Post by **Hoi Polloi** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 4:25 pm

hangfour wrote:Strange story! Alcohol, guns, and a church picnic. What a mix!

2 out of 3 isn't all that unusual. You just don't frequently see all three peacefully coexisting in the same place and same time all that often.

jester · Post by **jester** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:11 pm

WildBill wrote:
The people at the festival who detained Hein said they hid his gun and put it in a grill to keep him from it.
Smart move! I hope it wasn't on.

They did say it was a Browning.

C-dub · Post by **C-dub** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:29 pm

WildBill wrote:If "visitors at the festival noticed Hein walking around ... and realized he had a gun underneath his shirt" how could he be arrested for having a concealed weapon?

By the time police arrived his handgun was "in a grill". I have read this statement hundreds of times on the forum: "Concealed means Concealed". Is this a case of "UnConcealed means Concealed"?

I'm guessing that he was concealed enough to not meet whatever definition they have that defines "open" carry.

I'm also still at a loss that someone would attempt to TAKE a gun from someone rather than just call the police. Maybe he was drunk and that made it easier to do. However, unless he had become belligerent or abusive towards someone I would have just let the police handle it and not challenge him. IMO, taking a gun from someone like this is a very risky option.

davidtx · Post by **davidtx** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:09 pm

jester wrote:
WildBill wrote:
The people at the festival who detained Hein said they hid his gun and put it in a grill to keep him from it.
Smart move! I hope it wasn't on.
They did say it was a Browning.

GROAN.....

(I wish I'd come up with it)

mr surveyor · Post by **mr surveyor** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:17 pm

davidtx wrote:
jester wrote:
WildBill wrote:
The people at the festival who detained Hein said they hid his gun and put it in a grill to keep him from it.
Smart move! I hope it wasn't on.
They did say it was a Browning.

GROAN..... (I wish I'd come up with it)

sometimes age can be a terrible thing.... I just caught it

VoiceofReason · Post by **VoiceofReason** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:07 am

C-dub wrote:
WildBill wrote:If "visitors at the festival noticed Hein walking around ... and realized he had a gun underneath his shirt" how could he be arrested for having a concealed weapon?

By the time police arrived his handgun was "in a grill". I have read this statement hundreds of times on the forum: "Concealed means Concealed". Is this a case of "UnConcealed means Concealed"?
I'm guessing that he was concealed enough to not meet whatever definition they have that defines "open" carry.

I'm also still at a loss that someone would attempt to TAKE a gun from someone rather than just call the police. Maybe he was drunk and that made it easier to do. However, unless he had become belligerent or abusive towards someone I would have just let the police handle it and not challenge him. IMO, taking a gun from someone like this is a very risky option.

taking a gun from someone like this is a very risky option

The people that took the gun from him were dumb.

Which is worse, dumb or drunk?

I guess that if you are drunk you can sober up.

If your dumb wellll

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