Dallas Morning News today (Sat)

[RPB]

good article: (and good comments)

(I clicked "Recommended" on both the front page, and on the article itself)

Dallas Morning News
Concealed handgun permits on rise in Dallas-area suburbs
12:27 AM CDT on Saturday, October 2, 2010
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 9f4aa.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Of the 30 Texas ZIP codes with the most people receiving new or renewed licenses last year, 27 were in the Houston and Dallas-Fort Worth suburbs,"
"Almost 31,000 women obtained a license, far more than in any other year and nearly 40 percent over 1996's previous high."

Your 2A is showing ... (MWAG)

" Another McKinney business owner said people can get nervous when they spot a handgun protruding from someone's belt or pocket.

Doc Vranici, owner of Brothers Pizza, said that as recently as Sunday, a customer, who has a conceal-carry permit himself, reported to him that another patron had a gun visible in his belt.

Vranici said he figured the man, whom he described as a "Texas good ol' boy," probably had a permit, so he didn't worry about it.
"If the behavior matches someone of concern, if it was questionable, then of course, your alerts go off," he said. "But if he's sitting at a table with a bunch of church people and they're all in their 50s, it's not going to bother you that much.""


"The times they are a-changin" (People are getting more educated about CHLs good records etc)
Front page even has a link to apply for a CHL ... http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... sindex.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Keith B]

.....Vranici said he figured the man, whom he described as a "Texas good ol' boy," probably had a permit, so he didn't worry about it.

"If the behavior matches someone of concern, if it was questionable, then of course, your alerts go off," he said. "But if he's sitting at a table with a bunch of church people and they're all in their 50s, it's not going to bother you that much.""[/i]


"The times they are a-changin" (People are getting more educated about CHLs good records etc)
Front page even has a link to apply for a CHL ... http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... sindex.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Unfortunately, not everyone who has a CHL has that middle-aged "Texas good ol' boy" look. It still boils down to a perception thing when folks see someone with a gun. It has always been that way. I used to ride motorcycles with a bunch of other off-duty cops on weekends. Many would frequently not shave for a couple of days, wear older jeans and t-shirts and look pretty rough in general. We had two different incidents where one of the officer's BUG was seen. You could see the panic creep into the store clerk's face until one of us showed ID to put them at ease. And, this was in a rural area of a state where open carry was totally legal.

If open carry would pass, you would have the same type of issues. People have pre-conceived ideas and like it or not, they will usually profile you and if enough bells and whistles sound in their head, they will call a MWAG call. Just take a look at the other thread running on the guys that were at a restaurant in Wisconsin and got called on. The caller decided they were not police officers because of the appearance of the individuals and didn't know it was legal to open carry.

[RPB]

True. I'm a long-haired, bearded (both beard and hair almost to my belt line) hippy type lookin' guy (except it's 100% grey now) since I retired, big change from most of my life as a short-haired suit wearing guy, (though I rode a bike in college) but I wanted to try it, since I never did before. (Don't care for the trouble of all the extra time devoting to hair care now, so when Spring comes, it's getting donated to "Locks of Love")

My rule of thumb if I spot a MWAG in his pants is "what kinda holster do they have?"
Crossbreed etc ... "your 2A is showing"

However, the general public isn't educated well on that matter at all.

[Ameer]

My rule of thumb if I spot a MWAG in his pants is "what kinda holster do they have?"
Crossbreed etc ... "your 2A is showing"

However, the general public isn't educated well on that matter at all.

That is a good rule. Most bad guys stick the gun in their pants or hoodie but usually good guys have holsters.