My experience with OC has been mostly to the West in Arizona and New Mexico.
I used to see lots of people in New Mexico up untill they adopted their own CHL law. Mostly I just drive through New Mexico. I put the Hand Gun right up on the seat or on the Dash when I was driving through, to get out and get gas, I would holster it and make sure it was visible when I was driving.. Saw many others doing the same.
In Ariz during the 80s people open carried all the time, I've literally saw people checking their guns when at a bar. Hiking and rock climbing is one of the favorite activities around there, even up near border. People still open carry quite a bit when participating in these activities.. Lots of these grounds are Fed propertys but people still carried, even before the recent clarified it. Most people that OCed that I saw had big ole revolvers with western type holsters. .. Probably with snake shot. Today in Ariz. you don't see much open carry in The Large cities. but one doesn't drive far before they are in the open desert, and people tend to open carry when out during the day.. I visit all along the I-10 and further North, I have never noticed what seems to be a non LEO open carry.
These are my observations.. YMMV
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It sounds like open carry works fine in pro gun states like Arizona.
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I don't know if Arizona is any more pro gun than Texas, but they do have a deeper tradition of actual Open carry than most states. Even in Arizona OC isn't without its hazzards. One of my favorite Blogsbizarrenormality wrote:It sounds like open carry works fine in pro gun states like Arizona.
A guy saw an 80 year old man open carrying at a market what sounds like the big ole revolver that is popular there. He tried to raise a big stink to the management. The guy is a Californian transplant. From what I can see these aliens cause more headaches and misery than the illegal Mexican kind.
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Sounds like the only hazard was to the almost terminally liberal guy. Seriously -- his liberalness nearly gave him a massive heart attack. Think of the headlines... "Californian Immigrant Drops Dead from Shock at the Sight of Somebody Not Breaking the Law!"Liberty wrote:I don't know if Arizona is any more pro gun than Texas, but they do have a deeper tradition of actual Open carry than most states. Even in Arizona OC isn't without its hazzards. One of my favorite Blogsbizarrenormality wrote:It sounds like open carry works fine in pro gun states like Arizona.
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What you're saying is 100% true, but you're missing the point. Your 2nd A right is a CIVIL RIGHT. Before the civil right marches and demonstrations of the 60's, many pale blacks would pretend to be white to avoid discrimination. They'd "pass as white." They'd sneak into a whites only establishment much like a CHL'er would sneak into a gunbusters sign posted business. However, I'm sure that if you ask any pale black man if he prefers sneaking around or openly walking around as a black man, I'm sure you'll get a unanimous and vocal support for open carry of his ethnicity.BrianSW99 wrote:If someone has a non-compliant sign now, they don't have a good way to measure whether its working or not since guns have to be concealed. They may also be assuming that the sign is enforceable if an issue came to their attention, but just haven't had the opportunity to test it.
Once they see guns come into their store despite the sign and find out the sign they have has no legal bearing, then I think they will be more likely go and figure out what they need to do to have an enforceable sign. Again, I think that many businesses just aren't aware that there are legal requirements to have a valid sign. It's not information you automatically get when you open a business..you'd have to go looking for it.
I also think it's likely we'll see businesses that may be fine with concealed guns, but feel that openly carried guns might alarm their customers and post a sign just for that reason. If it's the same 30.06 sign as Charles has said it would likely be, then you can't prohibit OC without also affecting concealed carry.
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