dagger is ok in school?
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dagger is ok in school?
then i need my AK to permited on school ground ... more here http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/01/mi ... er-school/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: dagger is ok in school?
There should at least be a requirement to have a "blade lock" installed to prevent the dagger from being drawn. This would be for both the protection of the owner and those who might be unfamiliar with its operation and attempt to play with it and to prevent it from being stolen and used in a crime.
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Re: dagger is ok in school?
The kirpan is a religious symbol and secondly it is a weapon
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If a CHL had been around at the founding of their religion I'm sure all baptized Sikh would be required to have oneThe kirpan is both a defensive weapon and a symbol. Physically it is an instrument of "ahimsa" or non-violence. The principle of ahimsa is to actively prevent violence, not to simply stand by idly whilst violence is being done. To that end, the kirpan is a tool to be used to prevent violence from being done to a defenseless person when all other means to do so have failed.
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Re: dagger is ok in school?
Kirpan is not a dagger.
I met some Sikhs once. They are serious about protecting life, using an offensive weapon or attacking someone else would be unthinkable. They are so serious that, if they draw the knife they must shed blood. If they draw it without needing to use it they cut themselves.
I met some Sikhs once. They are serious about protecting life, using an offensive weapon or attacking someone else would be unthinkable. They are so serious that, if they draw the knife they must shed blood. If they draw it without needing to use it they cut themselves.
Re: dagger is ok in school?
I've got no problem with Sikhs carrying their religious knives in school. As in inside the buildings and classrooms while class is in session, not just in the parking lots and in their cars.
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...The Bowie knife is the holy blade of Texas...send your child to school with one and see if they get such "consideration"...if they want to be Sikhs...let 'em return to whence they came...if they want to be Americans...let them suffer under the same PC idiocy that our kids do...
Re: dagger is ok in school?
...The Bowie knife is the holy blade of Texas...send your child to school with one and see if they get such "consideration"...if they want to be Sikhs...let 'em return to whence they came...if they want to be Americans...let them suffer under the same PC idiocy that our kids do...


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Such a weird train of thought -
"If we don't get to exercise a right, noone should."
"If we don't get to exercise a right, noone should."
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Re: dagger is ok in school?
So some kids can bring a dagger to school because it's a religious symbol, and the other kids can't bring the same dagger to school because it's a weapon....
Sounds like the tax code...
Sounds like the tax code...
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Re: dagger is ok in school?
I think the issue people have is more with the double standard being applied. In this case, the kid is getting rights which are denied to others on the basis of their respective religions. My kid is denied the right to carry a similar weapon solely because she is not a Sikh. That does not really seem all that fair.gigag04 wrote:Such a weird train of thought -
"If we don't get to exercise a right, noone should."
That said, I personally don't think that the "right" to carry a blade weapon (dagger, knife, etc) should be granted to kids at school. Just too much potential for trouble with kids who are not mature enough to fully control their emotions. I'd say a minimum age of 18 would be more appropriate.
I also think that adults should be able to carry weapons at school with a valid CHL.
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PerfectRoyGBiv wrote:So some kids can bring a dagger to school because it's a religious symbol, and the other kids can't bring the same dagger to school because it's a weapon....
Sounds like the tax code...

Not very happy about this discrimination though. My child would get suspended if he even brought a PICTURE of a knife or gun to school (well, maybe not, but it's possible in other states)
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Re: dagger is ok in school?
It would be nice to ensure that US citizens are not discriminated against or denied rights that are granted to others on the basis of their religion. Too bad there isn't anything in the constitution on this.lkd wrote:PerfectRoyGBiv wrote:So some kids can bring a dagger to school because it's a religious symbol, and the other kids can't bring the same dagger to school because it's a weapon....
Sounds like the tax code...![]()
Not very happy about this discrimination though. My child would get suspended if he even brought a PICTURE of a knife or gun to school (well, maybe not, but it's possible in other states)

Re: dagger is ok in school?
Perhaps things would be easier if Christians adopted the 1911 as their religious symbol? 

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Re: dagger is ok in school?
I guess now is the time for all gang bangers to change their religion. 

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Re: dagger is ok in school?
Let's see:
--If you are a Sikh, you can wear a "religious" dagger. If you are a catholic you cannot wear a cross or pray, due to separation of church and state.
-- If you are a Sikh, you can wear a "religious" dagger. If you are not and you point a finger in the shape of a gun, you are arrested due to the weapons zero tolerance policy .
Makes perfect sence to me.... NOT
--If you are a Sikh, you can wear a "religious" dagger. If you are a catholic you cannot wear a cross or pray, due to separation of church and state.
-- If you are a Sikh, you can wear a "religious" dagger. If you are not and you point a finger in the shape of a gun, you are arrested due to the weapons zero tolerance policy .
Makes perfect sence to me.... NOT

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