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[Astro]

I am a Chl holder and carry my LCP 24/7. But I'm missing the safety of my old Springfield xd. In fact the perfect gun would probably be a Springfield xd .380 single stack, but that is not made. So I was hoping you guys could suggest some single stack .380 or 9mm pistols for me that maybe I haven't checked out yet.

Thanks

[A-R]

with manual safety of some kind ...

9mm
Taurus PT709 Slim
New Sig P290 coming out soon (I think it will have a safety)
Kimber Solo
Springfield EMP (expensive 9mm 1911 style with thumb safety and grip safety)
H&K P7 (used only, expensive, heavy, unique firing mechanism - extraordinarly accurate blowback action - not a "safety" but has a grip cocking mechanism that's as good or better than a safety - gun is not cocked to fire until grip is squeezed)


.380
Walther PPK
Walther PK380
Sig P230/P232
Sig P238 (clone of old Colt Mustang, single action only with thumb safety but no grip safety like big brother 1911)
Bersa Thunder .380
Beretta 84/85
Browning BDA

Note: edited to weed out guns without some form of manual safety

[Astro]

Remember the whole point is Safety. Really prefer grip safety, but thumb will do as well.

[function12]

S&W BG380. Single stack, safety, and built in laser.

[RPB]

Remember the whole point is Safety. Really prefer grip safety, but thumb will do as well.

OMC or AMT 380 backup, (same gun) not the newer DAO, but the old one with both the grip and thumb safety.
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accurate enough for close work

close in size to your LCP, Aluminum instead of plastic so a tad more weight


Either you get
!) one that works great
or
2) one that doesn't
(I've had about 4, 2 of each, 2 worked great, 2 needed a polishing and etc..)
Design was ok, quality control, not as good.

Saw one at a gun show recently way overpriced, sometimes they pop up cheap.

[RECIT]

My Dad carries a PK380 and likes it quite a bit. He bought b/c he also has a P22 that he loves, and they are extremely similar. The PK380 has a larger grip and frame compared to an LCP or P3AT and is very easy to shoot accurately. No laser, but it does have a thumb safety. In that same size category I recommend the Kel_tec PF9. They are ugly and cheap feeling, but they work and conceal a full power round better than any other 9mm around.

[ZeeMan]

keltec pf9 has no external safety....................

[Seabear]

If you want .380 single stack, thumb safety, I am thinking SIG P238. Pricey but very sweet.

[A-R]

Remember the whole point is Safety. Really prefer grip safety, but thumb will do as well.

oops

missed that part

I'll amend my list above

[Astro]

Thanks guys...I started carrying with a Springfield sc 40 and just found it hard to conceal 24/7 because of the width. So I switched to my lcp which is a great carry. I just like the grip safety of my old xd since I carry cocked and locked 24/7.

[Astro]

If you want .380 single stack, thumb safety, I am thinking SIG P238. Pricey but very sweet.

I had stayed away from the p238 in the past because of the problems they had when they first came out, but it seems like they've pretty much fixed the bugs now.