Did Associated Press ask for CHL personal info?

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Did Associated Press ask for CHL personal info?

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At this point it is just a rumor. I heard that the AP has requested the names of Texas CHL's.

I am fully aware of GC 411.192 and that they should, and probably will, be denied access to that info per law.

This could be a rumor from a source that is unnerved by AP's recent efforts in Illinois to release and publish similar info of firearms owners in that state. In fact, the Attorney General of Illinois has instructed the release of that personal info.

Has anyone heard of similar activity in Texas?
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CWOOD wrote:At this point it is just a rumor. I heard that the AP has requested the names of Texas CHL's.

I am fully aware of GC 411.192 and that they should, and probably will, be denied access to that info per law.

This could be a rumor from a source that is unnerved by AP's recent efforts in Illinois to release and publish similar info of firearms owners in that state. In fact, the Attorney General of Illinois has instructed the release of that personal info.

Has anyone heard of similar activity in Texas?
I heard about he Illinois FOID fiasco on the radio tonight. I think I'll do a FOIA request for the income tax returns of all AP executives. I'll probably have as much success getting that from the IRS as they will getting the CHL list from TXDPS. Not every official document is subject to mandatory disclosure.
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Wouldn't matter. Greg Abbott would tell them to buzz off, and Perry would back him up. Besides, it's prohibited by Texas law.
Sec. 411.192. CONFIDENTIALITY OF RECORDS. (a) The department shall disclose to a criminal justice agency information contained in its files and records regarding whether a named individual or any individual named in a specified list is licensed under this subchapter. Information on an individual subject to disclosure under this section includes the individual's name, date of birth, gender, race, zip code, telephone number, e-mail address, and Internet website address. Except as otherwise provided by this section and by Section 411.193, all other records maintained under this subchapter are confidential and are not subject to mandatory disclosure under the open records law, Chapter 552.

(b) An applicant or license holder may be furnished a copy of disclosable records regarding the applicant or license holder on request and the payment of a reasonable fee.

(c) The department shall notify a license holder of any request that is made for information relating to the license holder under this section and provide the name of the agency making the request.

(d) The department shall make public and distribute to the public at no cost lists of individuals who are certified as qualified handgun instructors by the department and who request to be included as provided by Subsection (e). The department shall include on the lists each individual's name, telephone number, e-mail address, and Internet website address. The department shall make the list available on the department's Internet website.

(e) An individual who is certified as a qualified handgun instructor may request in writing that the department disclose all or part of the information described by Subsection (d) regarding the individual. The department shall include all or part of the individual's information on the list as requested.
Sec. 411.193. STATISTICAL REPORT. The department shall make available, on request and payment of a reasonable fee to cover costs of copying, a statistical report that includes the number of licenses issued, denied, revoked, or suspended by the department during the preceding month, listed by age, gender, race, and zip code of the applicant or license holder.
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There is a difference between reporting the news and making the news. AP should be ashamed of themselves.
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philip964 wrote:There is a difference between reporting the news and making the news. AP should be ashamed of themselves.
You're attributing to them the capacity for shame. I assure that not only are they not ashamed, they're quite proud of themselves. If the request is denied they can congratulate themselves for making the effort, and if it's successful and results in injury to the law abiding, they can revel in their service to the liberal collective.
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baldeagle wrote:Wouldn't matter. Greg Abbott would tell them to buzz off, and Perry would back him up. Besides, it's prohibited by Texas law.
Sec. 411.192. CONFIDENTIALITY OF RECORDS. (a) The department shall disclose to a criminal justice agency information contained in its files and records regarding whether a named individual or any individual named in a specified list is licensed under this subchapter. Information on an individual subject to disclosure under this section includes the individual's name, date of birth, gender, race, zip code, telephone number, e-mail address, and Internet website address. Except as otherwise provided by this section and by Section 411.193, all other records maintained under this subchapter are confidential and are not subject to mandatory disclosure under the open records law, Chapter 552.

(b) An applicant or license holder may be furnished a copy of disclosable records regarding the applicant or license holder on request and the payment of a reasonable fee.

(c) The department shall notify a license holder of any request that is made for information relating to the license holder under this section and provide the name of the agency making the request.
Ask anyone you know with a CHL who was pulled over while driving if they were notified.

If they don't obey this part of law, why should anyone trust them to obey any of it?
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Re: Did Associated Press ask for CHL personal info?

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Ameer wrote:
baldeagle wrote:Wouldn't matter. Greg Abbott would tell them to buzz off, and Perry would back him up. Besides, it's prohibited by Texas law.
Sec. 411.192. CONFIDENTIALITY OF RECORDS. (a) The department shall disclose to a criminal justice agency information contained in its files and records regarding whether a named individual or any individual named in a specified list is licensed under this subchapter. Information on an individual subject to disclosure under this section includes the individual's name, date of birth, gender, race, zip code, telephone number, e-mail address, and Internet website address. Except as otherwise provided by this section and by Section 411.193, all other records maintained under this subchapter are confidential and are not subject to mandatory disclosure under the open records law, Chapter 552.

(b) An applicant or license holder may be furnished a copy of disclosable records regarding the applicant or license holder on request and the payment of a reasonable fee.

(c) The department shall notify a license holder of any request that is made for information relating to the license holder under this section and provide the name of the agency making the request.
Ask anyone you know with a CHL who was pulled over while driving if they were notified.

If they don't obey this part of law, why should anyone trust them to obey any of it?
I don't think that a routine internal records check is what the statute is referring to.
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