A UT Professor on Campus Carry

[RHenriksen]

Maybe she was simply speaking rhetorically.

[rimshot] You deserve a beer for that one, sir - I'm buying.

Is that a rhetorical beer, an e-beer or a real beer?

Nosirree bob - a real, honest-to-goodness physical beer. In a glass & everything.

[WildBill]

Maybe she was simply speaking rhetorically.

[rimshot] You deserve a beer for that one, sir - I'm buying.

Is that a rhetorical beer, an e-beer or a real beer?

Nosirree bob - a real, honest-to-goodness physical beer. In a glass & everything.

Wow! You can't beat that, a clean glass and everthing.

[Purplehood]

I didn't see any mention of the word "clean" in the statement.

[Heartland Patriot]

A professor in the Department of Rhetoric and Writing (Yes, there really is an actual university department for that. ) at the University of Texas has weighed in on the proposed Campus Carry bill (HB750) working its way through the legislature - needless to say, she opposes it, and has had her commentary published in the Austin American-Statesman paper and at the paper's website here:

http://www.statesman.com/opinion/syvers ... 41292.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There have been some responses that take issue with her assertions, and, truth be told, she's really not doing very well in defending her views.

* Rather than refuting dissenting opinions, she characterizes them as "ill-founded" and the persons who disagree with her are "deluded."
* She equates "freedom" with "disarmament" and disparages our ideas of freedom as being "narrow, individualistic, and self-centered." (Her outlook is distinctly collectivist.)
* She adds in the obligatory comment equating self defense with vigilante violence.
* And finally, she closes her latest response with an argument I have never - NEVER - seen uttered before: even when packing a gun, we will all still get old, get sick, and die.

So she felt a need to point out that firearms don't stave off old age. I don't know whether to or at this coming from a professor at UT.

I pity her students - at least the ones studying for a REAL degree, who are just using her class to fill out a humanities or social science requirement.

She, and her colleagues, will someday retire with a very nice pension funded by me and you. Is this a great country/state or what?

I know you were being sarcastic...but I'm most certainly not...these are the sort of folks that make me sick to my stomach. Not because they have an opinion that is different than mine. Nope, its because her opinion is given more weight than mine because she's a "professor", but knows a heck of a lot less about this than me...and I'm nowhere near being an expert. Yes, sir, sick to my stomach...

[Heartland Patriot]

And so she eloquently makes a nonsensical point as the Greeks were wont to do with their rhetoric.

Look up the Sophists...a lot of the trash talk that comes out of certain folks has a grounding in what those ancient Sophists did...

[Derf]

The woman is living in a mental box. I read through all of the comments, and her attempt to defend her opinion is pretty poor. I actually laughed out loud when I read some of the recycled lines around "dissenters," "guns always increase harm," etc....right out of the Left Wing FUD Manual on Gun Control. In advertising, repetition is a known seller. It could simply be simply a case of her reading the same garbage over and over. However, she appears to be unwilling or incapable of even contemplating any point of view outside of her narrow definition of what she thinks the decision on this should be. Sad really.

Yeah, she has every right to spew her opinion, but guess what, I have the right to belch loudly in public. I choose not to do so because of the embarrassment that it could cause me. A crying shame she didn't consider the lack of ability to clearly defend her viewpoint in this case, because she looks pretty foolish on the comments thread.

A society that chooses to voluntarily suppress its survival instinct, doesn't. Not for very long anyway.

[CowboyEngineer]

My wife is an Aggie so I don't hear many nice things about Austin, but after reading all the pro chl comments to the professor's editorial, I have to think that maybe all longhorns aren't evil.

[snorri]

A UT Professor on Campus Carry

What else is the professor "on" ? http://www.trinity.edu/jdunn/spiderdrugs.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[jmoney]

My younger brother goes to UT, and was there on campus the day it was locked down when that guy went blasting off with an AK there. When he was talking about it later, and even though he never really has been interested in firearms, had to comment how stupid it is that in place where you always see some nutjob at least once a year doing things like this, nobody could defend themselves. They were to remain in the classrooms locked until the police came, which he simply felt was contrary to what he should be doing; such as calmly finding an exit, listening, taking cover as necessary. He basically equated it to being locked in a pen like cows waiting to be slaughtered.

Some people are just always going to be scared of guns, and would rather believe there can be a world without any, than learn to not be scared of them, or even learn how to properly defend themselves so that they may go home to see their families again. I am finally finishing my undergrad in san marcos, and am going off to law school and all I have to say about the undergrad liberal arts department is good riddance, my teachers pushed any political views upon us, but you would be amazed of the things that people say that are enrolled there. I literally have come to the conclusion that some people don't care about validity, or understanding, they are set in their beliefs and it is a waste of my time to change them, my efforts could be used somewhere else...such as helping with any campaigns to secure out 2nd amendment rights.

[blue]

--jmoney--

Please thank your brother for the fine words, Very Well Said!

"..locked in a pen like cows waiting to be slaughtered."
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SO... IN THEIR LOGIC--
-If there is a fire, then lockdown everyone and wait for the Fire Department.

-What if the "shooters" bring firebombs? DOUBLE LOCKDOWN????

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Lockdowns - "Its for the children."

[KD5NRH]

She can make all the snide jokes she wants about gun ownership relating to the size of certain external organs,

If that had anything to do with it, I wouldn't carry a 2" snubnose.

[74novaman]

She can make all the snide jokes she wants about gun ownership relating to the size of certain external organs,

If that had anything to do with it, I wouldn't carry a 2" snubnose.

Obviously I don't think it does, but it is a common snide remark from antis and we should be prepared to hear it flung at us.

[OldCurlyWolf]

My younger brother goes to UT, and was there on campus the day it was locked down when that guy went blasting off with an AK there. When he was talking about it later, and even though he never really has been interested in firearms, had to comment how stupid it is that in place where you always see some nutjob at least once a year doing things like this, nobody could defend themselves. They were to remain in the classrooms locked until the police came, which he simply felt was contrary to what he should be doing; such as calmly finding an exit, listening, taking cover as necessary. He basically equated it to being locked in a pen like cows waiting to be slaughtered.

Some people are just always going to be scared of guns, and would rather believe there can be a world without any, than learn to not be scared of them, or even learn how to properly defend themselves so that they may go home to see their families again. I am finally finishing my undergrad in san marcos, and am going off to law school and all I have to say about the undergrad liberal arts department is good riddance, my teachers pushed any political views upon us, but you would be amazed of the things that people say that are enrolled there. I literally have come to the conclusion that some people don't care about validity, or understanding, they are set in their beliefs and it is a waste of my time to change them, my efforts could be used somewhere else...such as helping with any campaigns to secure out 2nd amendment rights.

There is a criminal and a civil case for illegal detention.

Several Thousand strong cases.

[blue]

and if it was thousands of 'employees', instead of 'students' - would not the dreaded OSHA be all over them, with glee?

And sadly,the taxpayers get to pay for the whole mess, like it or not.

[EconDoc]

She can make all the snide jokes she wants about gun ownership relating to the size of certain external organs,

If that had anything to do with it, I wouldn't carry a 2" snubnose.

Obviously I don't think it does, but it is a common snide remark from antis and we should be prepared to hear it flung at us.

By the way, if you read what Sigmund Freud said about weapons, it was something to the effect that a fear of weapons was a sign of an immature, infantile personality. At least the sentiment has been attributed to him.