"Lowest common denominator" Chl rules?

j1132s · Post by **j1132s** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:36 am

I'm considering taking a road trip traveling thru a cople of states having reciprocity with Texas regarding CHL.

Since chl holders must follow the chl laws of each state, I'm wondering if somebody's figured a "lowest common denominator" set of rules that one can follow to be legal in all the states.

Post by **Crossfire** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:23 am

All the states are different. There is no common denominator other than to not be armed.
If you travel, spend a couple of bucks and get yourself "The Traveler's Guide to the 50 States". Tells you in plain english what you need to know.

kw5kw · Post by **kw5kw** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:45 am

Next month (Sept. '06) I plan on a trip to Colorado including the Denver metro area and the Rocky Mountain National Park. In route I'll be cutting the northeast corner of New Mexico.

So, I looked up on the web the laws of both Co. and NM.

For instance:

Colorado: http://www.safearms.com/colorado.html

Denver = http://www.municode.com/resources/gatew ... &pid=10257 (takes a while to load)

New Mexico: http://www.conwaygreene.com/nmsu/lpext. ... -h.htm&2.0

Main thing for NM is CCW or OC is NOT allowed anywhere, stress ANYWHERE, alcohol is sold. That does include convince stores and supermarkets AND Wal-Mart... if that store sells alcohol, then NO gun allowed. This law also includes ANY restaurant that serves alcohol, i.e.: Chili's, Applebee's, Red Lobster, etc. NM is really a bit over zealous about this... that's my opinion, for what it's worth. I havenâ€™t' found such restrictions on/in Colorado yet.

Both Colorado and New Mexico do allow Open Carry! New Mexico's OC is a bit more lenient than Colorado's as Colorado statutes state that: " 18-9-106. Disorderly conduct. A person commits disorderly conduct if he or she intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly: ... (f) Not being a peace officer, displays a deadly weapon, displays any article used or fashioned in a manner to cause a person to reasonably believe that the article is a deadly weapon, or represents verbally or otherwise that he or she is armed with a deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm" (from http://www.rmgo.org/faq/index.shtml#Open%20Carry )

So be careful carrying openly in Colorado, or anywhere for that matter. Least they have Open Carry so flashing is not so much a problem there as it is here in Texas.

One other thing, a very important thing to note is that they (neither NM or CO) don't have 30.06 signs. They don't have these signs anywhere but Texas, so beware, a ghost-buster's sign or a simple handwritten sign are both just as binding on you there as a 30.06 is here in Texas.

Carry Safe,
Respect their laws, a weapons conviction there could (and will) kill your CHL here in Texas.

If in doubt, play it safe and lock it up.

I hope this helps,

Russ

Kalrog · Post by **Kalrog** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:29 pm

kw5kw wrote:Next month (Sept. '06) I plan on a trip to Colorado including the Denver metro area and the Rocky Mountain National Park. In route I'll be cutting the northeast corner of New Mexico.

If you want, you could go across the corner of Oklahoma instead of NM. It is actually a little bit faster going that way with a destination of Denver or RMNP. Although the scenery isn't quite as nice (we did OK on the way up and NM on the way back).

kw5kw · Post by **kw5kw** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:43 pm

Kalrog wrote:
kw5kw wrote:Next month (Sept. '06) I plan on a trip to Colorado including the Denver metro area and the Rocky Mountain National Park. In route I'll be cutting the northeast corner of New Mexico.
If you want, you could go across the corner of Oklahoma instead of NM. It is actually a little bit faster going that way with a destination of Denver or RMNP. Although the scenery isn't quite as nice (we did OK on the way up and NM on the way back).

Thanks, but we're going for scenery, there is a senic drive from Trinidad to Walsenburg that bypasses I-25 that we are wanting to take, then jump back on I-25 to Pueblo and exit again to go to Canon City to see the Royal Gorge. Then we'll backtrack a bit to Co. 115 and on to Colorado Springs and then up to Denver/Golden where we'll be staying for the rest of our trip-- going to see Cheryl Crow at the Red Rocks Amphitheater. Whoo, Hoo!

stevie_d_64 · Post by **stevie_d_64** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:52 pm

My Dad recently took a road trip up to CO. for a Little Britches Rodeo finals...

Of course he failed to heed the wisdom of his eldest son before he left and proceeded to travel through a variety of State including (gasp!) Kansas...

He called me up to give em an update and told me of his route home, to which after I picked myself up off the floor I told him to wait till I checked a "certain" website for some pretty good and comprehensive information on the states he may have to transit...

To which he should have done before leaving, and printing out a set of nice pages to keep in the vehicle while on that trip...

Good thing I bought him one of those slick "Secure-It" safes he could "cable" to his truck...While going through Kansas...

I would highly recommend, #1 because it's fun to learn about other States laws regarding fireams...And #2 because its fun to have that information with you to study before hand to make sure you have your information as straight as possible before, during and after you leave on that trip...

And #3, because its fun, not to get in heap big trouble way far from home...

I have yet to find a better website than this one, and one other, that you can discuss and learn as much as possible and discuss, talk shop, about all aspects of this issue...

And more important, that I trust to do so...

Have fun on your trip...Let us know how it goes!

Tacomaoffroader · Post by **Tacomaoffroader** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:42 am

llwatson wrote: If you travel, spend a couple of bucks and get yourself "The Traveler's Guide to the 50 States". Tells you in plain english what you need to know.

llwatson,

Where does one pick up this book?

How often is it updated?

gigag04 · Post by **gigag04** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:50 am

This might be it:

http://product.half.ebay.com/_W0QQprZ15 ... idZ3320570

Liberty · Post by **Liberty** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:23 am

Tacomaoffroader wrote:
llwatson wrote: If you travel, spend a couple of bucks and get yourself "The Traveler's Guide to the 50 States". Tells you in plain english what you need to know.
llwatson,

Where does one pick up this book?

How often is it updated?

It looks like it was written in 1982, No book can possibly keep up with the changes in Concealed carry law in all 50 states.
This thread is a classic example. started in August. There was no provision to carry in Kansas, we very well might have a reciprical agreement a month from now.

seamusTX · Post by **seamusTX** » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:31 am

This is what y'all are looking for: http://www.gunlaws.com/books.htm.

- Jim

GlockenHammer · Post by **GlockenHammer** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:38 am

j1132s wrote:I'm considering taking a road trip traveling thru a cople of states having reciprocity with Texas regarding CHL.

Since chl holders must follow the chl laws of each state, I'm wondering if somebody's figured a "lowest common denominator" set of rules that one can follow to be legal in all the states.

Very good question. Without researching it, I'd say this...Keep it completely concealed unless you need it to protect your life or that of someone you love. Don't enter establishments that have any "no gun" signs, serve or sell alcohol, are associated with any government entity.

I think you have quite a good research topic here. If you follow up on it, please provide your results for all of us!

TEX · Post by **TEX** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:22 am

j1132s

Although I will try to have a copy of the applicable laws for that state on hand when I travel, I do have bare bones set of rules that go something like this;

Keep it concealed
Stay out of places that sell alcohol - package or for consumption
Stay out of schools and school events
Stay out of govenment buildings
If stopped show drivers license and CHL

In general if you don't get made or have to use it, it won't be an issue. Keep mindful of the knife laws also. They can be very different. Probably best to keep it out of sight also. There are a number of general and state specific sites that should give you all the information and you need and you can probably fit all the relavent info for each state on 1 index card per state.

TEX

Liberty · Post by **Liberty** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:05 am

TEX wrote:j1132s

Although I will try to have a copy of the applicable laws for that state on hand when I travel, I do have bare bones set of rules that go something like this;

Keep it concealed
Stay out of places that sell alcohol - package or for consumption
Stay out of schools and school events
Stay out of govenment buildings
If stopped show drivers license and CHL

In general if you don't get made or have to use it, it won't be an issue. Keep mindful of the knife laws also. They can be very different. Probably best to keep it out of sight also. There are a number of general and state specific sites that should give you all the information and you need and you can probably fit all the relavent info for each state on 1 index card per state.

TEX

I have a similar mental List but have added another after Checking out the new Ohio Rules. "Always Keep it Holstered".
When driving for hours I have removed my handgun from my hip and stuck it in either my door panel pocket or between my seat and console. It should still be in a holster when stored like this.

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