Monday Apr 18
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Monday Apr 18
Something interesting on one of the agendas in one of the bodies that makes up our legislative branch in the state of Texas. (Obtuse because of trolls)
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"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
Re: Monday Apr 18
I don't see it.
Re: Monday Apr 18
Two different things.
The second one is John Woods' personal twitter account.
The second one is John Woods' personal twitter account.
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"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
Re: Monday Apr 18
I also cannot find what it is I'm looking for on his page but it may have been pushed back now.
Re: Monday Apr 18
The first thing is smething happening next week.
The second thing has nothing to do with the first. It's just John Woods' personal twitter account, which I thought we could all laugh at.
The second thing has nothing to do with the first. It's just John Woods' personal twitter account, which I thought we could all laugh at.
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"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
Re: Monday Apr 18
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.Jasonw560 wrote:The first thing is smething happening next week.
The second thing has nothing to do with the first. It's just John Woods' personal twitter account, which I thought we could all laugh at.
Re: Monday Apr 18
Care to give us non-Twitter types a bit more of a clue? I read through what I think are his tweets and saw nothing that reference what you seem to be referencing.
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Re: Monday Apr 18
SB354 is on the intent calendar again for 4/18. Since Mr. Cotton put it on the bill status report, I don't think it is secret.baldeagle wrote:Care to give us non-Twitter types a bit more of a clue?
Get those calls and faxes in to the senators today, this weekend, and Monday AM.
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Re: Monday Apr 18
So I wonder who has come back over to the good side?hirundo82 wrote:SB354 is on the intent calendar again for 4/18. Since Mr. Cotton put it on the bill status report, I don't think it is secret.baldeagle wrote:Care to give us non-Twitter types a bit more of a clue?
Get those calls and faxes in to the senators today, this weekend, and Monday AM.
Re: Monday Apr 18
True. I didn't see that until now.
I was going on what was hinted upon. Those cryptic things that go on when you try to get a straight answer.
Anyway, I have my 2 daily faxzero faxes sent.
Let's keep our fingers and toes and eyes crossed that it does come to pass.
I was going on what was hinted upon. Those cryptic things that go on when you try to get a straight answer.
Anyway, I have my 2 daily faxzero faxes sent.
Let's keep our fingers and toes and eyes crossed that it does come to pass.
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"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
Re: Monday Apr 18
I see SB354 is also listed on the regular order of business for Monday. Does that obviate the need for a 2/3rds majority?austinrealtor wrote:So I wonder who has come back over to the good side?
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." Barack Obama, 12/20/2007
Re: Monday Apr 18
I don't know. I wouldn't think so. From what I can gaher, it means they're bring it up for consideration. I doubt it would be on the regular order of business if someone hadn't left the dark side of the force, and they have the 2/3 they need.
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"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
Re: Monday Apr 18
I think it does. Bills must be read three times. Each reading must be on a separate day. Normally the Senate votes to suspend the rules, read the bill a second time, read it a third time and then vote on passage. The House does not do that. (Senator Whitmire routinely objects to suspending the rules on principle.) So I think what this means is that the bill will be read and debated on Monday. Then it will be placed on the Senate order of business later in the week and either passed or defeated.hirundo82 wrote:I see SB354 is also listed on the regular order of business for Monday. Does that obviate the need for a 2/3rds majority?austinrealtor wrote:So I wonder who has come back over to the good side?
I'm sure Charles can clarify or refute me with his eyes closed and both hands tied behind his back.

EDITED: Here's a followup, from this page: Guide to Texas Legislative Information
So SB 354 is following the normally prescribed course of a bill rather than the usual Senate process of bypassing the normal order of business to get other bills moved to the front of the line. That means, if I understand it correctly, that a 2/3rds vote will not be required to get the bill considered.Senate rules require that bills and resolutions be listed on the regular order of business and be considered on second reading in the order in which committee reports on the measures are submitted to the senate. During a regular session, the senate adopts a further rule specifying that before a bill or joint resolution may be brought up for floor debate out of its regular order, notice of intent must be filed with the secretary of the senate by 3 p.m. on the last preceding calendar day the senate was in session. A senator may give notice on no more than three bills or resolutions before April 15 and on no more than five bills or resolutions on or after April 15. Senate rules direct the secretary of the senate to prepare a list of all legislation for which notice has been given. The list, called the Intent Calendar, must be made available to each senator and to the press not later than 6:30 p.m. on the day the notice is filed. No bill or resolution may be considered on its first day on the Intent Calendar, and a vote of two-thirds of the senators present is required before any of the measures listed on the Intent Calendar may be debated. The senate rules do not require measures to be brought up for consideration in the order listed on the Intent Calendar, and the senate routinely considers only a portion of those measures listed on the Intent Calendar for a given day. A senator must give notice from day to day for a measure that was not brought up for consideration to remain on the Intent Calendar. Any provision of the senate rule governing the Intent Calendar may be suspended by a vote of four-fifths of the members present.
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The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. James Madison
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Re: Monday Apr 18
I stand corrected.baldeagle wrote:I think it does. Bills must be read three times. Each reading must be on a separate day. Normally the Senate votes to suspend the rules, read the bill, read it a second time, read it a third time and then vote on passage. The House does not do that. (Senator Whitmire routinely objects to suspending the rules on principle.) So I think what this means is that the bill will be read and debated on Monday. Then it will be placed on the Senate order of business later in the week and either passed or defeated.hirundo82 wrote:I see SB354 is also listed on the regular order of business for Monday. Does that obviate the need for a 2/3rds majority?austinrealtor wrote:So I wonder who has come back over to the good side?
I'm sure Charles can clarify or refute me with his eyes closed and both hands tied behind his back.
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"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people; it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government"- Patrick Henry
Re: Monday Apr 18
baldeagle wrote:So SB 354 is following the normally prescribed course of a bill rather than the usual Senate process of bypassing the normal order of business to get other bills moved to the front of the line. That means, if I understand it correctly, that a 2/3rds vote will not be required to get the bill considered.

That's my understanding too.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." Barack Obama, 12/20/2007