Socioeconomic breakdown

[Scott in Houston]

I'm college educated but not too smart I guess because I clicked on this thread expecting to see a post about what we'd do in a socioeconomic breakdown situation! Not what is our socioeconomic breakdown.

[BobCat]

I wasn't going to admit it, but so did I.

Interesting thread anyway.

[Hoi Polloi]

would she consider coming onto the board and discussing with the ladies why we carry? I think she would discover pretty quickly that we aren't a bunch of rednecks...we just won't let her on to the rest of the boards OK, maybe not such a good idea, can't control her clicking...maybe you could print out a few of the articles that have been posted? Most of us are just moms, we carry so we can protect ourselves and our children. I'm concerned now because my daughter graduates this year and will be taking college classes, but is too young to carry, I guess I need to find her a self-defense course of some sort...up to this point we've always been together (I homeschool).
Uneducated? well, both my husband and I carry and we both have college degrees.
I don't know what 'normal' is, but I manage to 'blend in"

[Divided Attention]

There is so much good information on this board, and changed my views - not that I was against guns or carrying, but thought most that did were either awaiting their superman cap in the mail, or were LEO wannabes. Now that I have spent the past 5 months with a gun on or about my person, and have gotten to know so many others in the "polite society", I must admit I am impressed.

That being said - I don't like the term "normal" what is that any way? I prefer typical and atypical... and as in several other instances I have no problem being atypical!

[Dave2]

I'm college educated but not too smart I guess because I clicked on this thread expecting to see a post about what we'd do in a socioeconomic breakdown situation! Not what is our socioeconomic breakdown.

And I was thinking, "Oh finally, someone wants to talk about what happens when all the jobs that don't require three PHDs have been automated and people can't find work because they just aren't smart enough." (Seriously... You know it's coming... What will the economy look like?)

[Thomas]

I'm college educated but not too smart I guess because I clicked on this thread expecting to see a post about what we'd do in a socioeconomic breakdown situation! Not what is our socioeconomic breakdown.

And I was thinking, "Oh finally, someone wants to talk about what happens when all the jobs that don't require three PHDs have been automated and people can't find work because they just aren't smart enough." (Seriously... You know it's coming... What will the economy look like?)

We move to Pennsylvania to become Amish?

[Dave2]

I'm college educated but not too smart I guess because I clicked on this thread expecting to see a post about what we'd do in a socioeconomic breakdown situation! Not what is our socioeconomic breakdown.

And I was thinking, "Oh finally, someone wants to talk about what happens when all the jobs that don't require three PHDs have been automated and people can't find work because they just aren't smart enough." (Seriously... You know it's coming... What will the economy look like?)

We move to Pennsylvania to become Amish?

I've thought about doing that for a year just for the fun of it, but then I think about AC, cell phones, computers, and all those modern conveniences I love.

Really, though, how hard would it be to automate a McDonalds? You'd probably still need one person there to call the repair people when something breaks down, but with enough sensors in the machines even that could be automated. How do you recover from a job market that's depressed not for economic reasons, but because all the work is already being done?

[apostate]

And I was thinking, "Oh finally, someone wants to talk about what happens when all the jobs that don't require three PHDs have been automated and people can't find work because they just aren't smart enough." (Seriously... You know it's coming... What will the economy look like?)

Do you want to believe Roddenberry or Heinlein or Cameron?

My magic 8-ball says, "Ask again later."

[baldeagle]

Am I a redneck? I have 96 credit hours with a 3.56 average, but I'll never get a degree (because I don't want or need one.) So I'm a high school grad. My wife has a Bachelors in Nursing and both of my daughters graduated from college. Maybe some of it rubbed off? Your wife thinks we're likely rednecks because that's what the media has been telling her for years. Propaganda works.

[WildBill]

Where can I find statistics (I know it was a thread here somewhere) that shows the # of CHL holders with college degrees, etc.?
I don't know where to look, and this will help me be armed (pun intended) when I debate my wife about guns, CHL, and the NRA.

The last time I checked, League City Zipcode 77573 had the highest per capita CHLs in Texas. The links below shows that 44.5% have an A.A. degree or higher. The percent of people with a Bachelor's Degree is 26.3%. The percentage of people holding graduate degrees is 11.5%. Over 42.7% of families earn an income of more than $75,000 per year.

http://www.movoto.com/neighborhood/tx/l ... /77573.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.leaguecityedc.com/pop_demographics-page4.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Q: What do you get when you send a redneck to college?
A: A redneck with a college degree.

[SewTexas]

back in the late 90's, and early 2000's when I lived in Georgetown, Williamson county.....said county had the highest homeschool rate per capita and one of the highest higher education rates per capita. I knew a fair number of chl holders back then. we managed to act 'normal'

don't know any of that kind of info for where I am now....Guadalupe....I'm pretty sure it's all lower here. But we still act 'typical'

[Skiprr]

Thanks for all of your input. I might have her sign on to the board and peruse the women's section.

And, I might add, she's a little trepidatious about my AD with a .22. Might bring that up.

You mean ND?

If you’re holdin’ it, a discharge ain’t ever accidental. It’s negligent.

The smartest man I know, one I’ve known since 1978, is bordering on the list of America’s 100 wealthiest. He completed two years of undergraduate studies, but never finished college. Fast-forward 30 years and his high school wants to name the new stadium after him.

I have an IB, a BBA, a BA, and an MA. Plus umpteen professional certifications.

All those combined--plus four bucks--will get you a cup of Breakfast Blend at Starbucks. The lid is optional.

There are no statistics about CHL holders’ education or income. Why should there be? Integrity doesn’t come packaged in Prada or Calvin Klein.

Honor and integrity come from the heart and soul. You know that when you see it.

There are people on this Forum whom I’ve never met, but who I absolutely would trust in an emergency.

Ignorant rednecks?

I once ran a publishing company and was among some over-educated and awfully erudite people. Frankly, in the real world, most of them couldn’t distinguish their elbows from their nether-regions. Negotiating with them never strayed into the realistic. I’m just sayin’.

I’ll take all of these CHL “ignorant rednecks” in a flat-out second over disingenuous, pretentious liberals who equate guns to the “lower class.”

IMHO, your wife may have entitlement issues, not gun issues. ’Cause the half-a-million CHL holders in Texas have proven how law-abiding they are with 24 years of statistics.

Doesn’t matter what degree they have or what job they do. CHL holders are the most law-abiding set of the population that’s definable.

And I’m extremely proud to count myself among them.

[Jasonw560]

Okay, I mean ND, then. But that's a different story.

I hear and agree with everything said here. I have an AAS in Emergency Medical Sciences. I'm smarter than the average bear. I know about this issue because I study it, and after all the facts are in, I come down on the most logical side.

I'm going to bring up the issue with her today. I might even have to use Charles' feel good line.

[The Annoyed Man]

Thanks for all of your input. I might have her sign on to the board and peruse the women's section.

And, I might add, she's a little trepidatious about my AD with a .22. Might bring that up.

You mean ND?

If you’re holdin’ it, a discharge ain’t ever accidental. It’s negligent.

The smartest man I know, one I’ve known since 1978, is bordering on the list of America’s 100 wealthiest. He completed two years of undergraduate studies, but never finished college. Fast-forward 30 years and his high school wants to name the new stadium after him.

I have an IB, a BBA, a BA, and an MA. Plus umpteen professional certifications.

All those combined--plus four bucks--will get you a cup of Breakfast Blend at Starbucks. The lid is optional.

There are no statistics about CHL holders’ education or income. Why should there be? Integrity doesn’t come packaged in Prada or Calvin Klein.

Honor and integrity come from the heart and soul. You know that when you see it.

There are people on this Forum whom I’ve never met, but who I absolutely would trust in an emergency.

Ignorant rednecks?

I once ran a publishing company and was among some over-educated and awfully erudite people. Frankly, in the real world, most of them couldn’t distinguish their elbows from their nether-regions. Negotiating with them never strayed into the realistic. I’m just sayin’.

I’ll take all of these CHL “ignorant rednecks” in a flat-out second over disingenuous, pretentious liberals who equate guns to the “lower class.”

IMHO, your wife may have entitlement issues, not gun issues. ’Cause the half-a-million CHL holders in Texas have proven how law-abiding they are with 24 years of statistics.

Doesn’t matter what degree they have or what job they do. CHL holders are the most law-abiding set of the population that’s definable.

And I’m extremely proud to count myself among them.

Skippr, other than all that alphabet soup after your name, you and I have a lot in common. Having grown up in the rarified atmosphere of Caltech/JPL, in frequent contact with some of the most brilliantly regarded minds on the planet, and having spent years in newspaper publishing, I've come to the conclusion that I would rather pass my time in the company of a common janitor who knows where his food comes from than basking in the presence of almost any Nobel laureate.

[SlickTX]

I have 3 sheepskins to go with my piece of plastic as well. And according to our current president I need to be taxed more because of my socioeconomic status.

Your wife is carrying prejudices (as in "pre judging") and you are right to try to overcome those prejudices with facts. Unfortunately, I don't think the precise facts that you are seeking are available. Others have suggested the clean sheet approach of viewing the crime stats of the CHL holders and drawing inferences from that information. That may or may not sway her from her "redneck" prejudice. My experience has shown me that most rednecks are law abiding citizens, as are CHL holders. Perhaps the best approach is to suggest to her that she has prejudged without facts and that she should probably withhold judgment until "she" has discovered facts to the contrary.