Why no Alabama?
Why no Alabama?
We will be driving to Georgia in may of next year to attend a wedding. Unless we want to take the scenic route, we must go through Alabama. So, I muct either get a NH permit or stop and disarm and rearm again on the other side.
Anyone know why no reciprocity with AL.? What's the hold up?
Anyone know why no reciprocity with AL.? What's the hold up?
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As I understand, Alabama licenses are issued by County authority, not state. There is no standard, so background checks are not often performed. Kind of like a good ol' boy Bubba license. Since Texas law requires standards similar to ours, Alabama has a long way to go before it is up to our standards. Get a FL permit - good for Alabama.
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Re: Alabama
Man, that's kind of scary. No wonder there is no reciprocity.anygunanywhere wrote:As I understand, Alabama licenses are issued by County authority, not state. There is no standard, so background checks are not often performed. Kind of like a good ol' boy Bubba license. Since Texas law requires standards similar to ours, Alabama has a long way to go before it is up to our standards. Get a FL permit - good for Alabama.
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The concern I expressed on the other thread was that the Alabama law didn't address whether reciprocity applied to non resident permits from other states. Their attorney general's web site expressed an "unofficial" opinion that it did, but warned that this could change.
I went ahead and made the trip. I had decided, as discussed in the other thread, not to inform the officer I was carrying for a routine traffic stop. It isn't legally required in Alabama, and why make a problem?
I also checked their attorney general's web site immediately before I left, to make sure nothing had changed, and I printed out a copy to take with me. If I did have to discuss things with an officer, I was going to show it to him, and ask if his own attorney general didn't know that it was illegal, how could he expect me to? How could he persuade a judge and jury to convict?
As things turned out, I had a good trip with no problems.
Scott
I went ahead and made the trip. I had decided, as discussed in the other thread, not to inform the officer I was carrying for a routine traffic stop. It isn't legally required in Alabama, and why make a problem?
I also checked their attorney general's web site immediately before I left, to make sure nothing had changed, and I printed out a copy to take with me. If I did have to discuss things with an officer, I was going to show it to him, and ask if his own attorney general didn't know that it was illegal, how could he expect me to? How could he persuade a judge and jury to convict?
As things turned out, I had a good trip with no problems.
Scott
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Yep, NH is the best one (and easy) to get these days...
Doesn't take an act of congress, its cheap, and its good in a lot of States...
I got mine in a couple of weeks after I mailed the info and the fee...
Alabama was always that little speedbump to Florida if I drove out that way...
Now I drive and don't stop...
Plus, when I worked for NASA, I carried on the NH permit...When I went to Huntsville for business...
Doesn't take an act of congress, its cheap, and its good in a lot of States...
I got mine in a couple of weeks after I mailed the info and the fee...
Alabama was always that little speedbump to Florida if I drove out that way...
Now I drive and don't stop...
Plus, when I worked for NASA, I carried on the NH permit...When I went to Huntsville for business...
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NH = New Hampshire
NH = New Hampshire
The permits are easy to get
$20 and a copy of your Texas permit
See http://www.Packing.org for details
The permits are easy to get
$20 and a copy of your Texas permit
See http://www.Packing.org for details
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Maybe we have a long way to go before we are up to their standards. No background check is a step in the right direction. Keep and bear arms is a right, not a privlege to whoever has the perfect background.Alabama has a long way to go before it is up to our standards
Alabama has a lot of things wrong with it's laws such as not even being able to carry in the car when traveling and having to carry a gun locked in a box. But no background check is not one of them
AL
I understand that the local Sheriff issues the CHL's. Most perform a background check before issuing but the law does NOT require it. This seems to be a major sticking point w/TX.
Does the ATF recognize the AL permit as an exemption from the Brady check? Seems like that would make the background check worthwhile - only have to have it done once every 4 or 5 years when you renew your license rather than everytime you buy a gun.
Does the ATF recognize the AL permit as an exemption from the Brady check? Seems like that would make the background check worthwhile - only have to have it done once every 4 or 5 years when you renew your license rather than everytime you buy a gun.
Let me make sure I understand you correctly... you think we should sell guns to every gangbanger, convicted felon, or illegal immigrant who wants one?Doug.38PR wrote: Maybe we have a long way to go before we are up to their standards. No background check is a step in the right direction. Keep and bear arms is a right, not a privlege to whoever has the perfect background.
I agree - the right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution. And every LAW-ABIDING CITZEN should be able to exercise that right.
felons with guns?
felons with guns?
For 200 years
Until 1968 anyone could own firearms.
The country survived.
For 200 years
Until 1968 anyone could own firearms.
The country survived.
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I would tend to agree with you, but I was contemplating an answer to the post and I had this thought:llwatson wrote:Let me make sure I understand you correctly... you think we should sell guns to every gangbanger, convicted felon, or illegal immigrant who wants one?Doug.38PR wrote: Maybe we have a long way to go before we are up to their standards. No background check is a step in the right direction. Keep and bear arms is a right, not a privlege to whoever has the perfect background.
I agree - the right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution. And every LAW-ABIDING CITZEN should be able to exercise that right.
Do gangbangers, convicted felons, or illegal immigrants lose the protection of the 1st, 4th, 5th and other ammendments/rights???
If someone is a gangbanger they are and should be still fully protected by the constitution. Whatever ground we give could eventually be used against us to take away our guns.
That's my thinking for right now anyway.
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