How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
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How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Yesterday Obama boldly proclaims to the White House Press Corps that 80% of Americans support a "Balanced Approach" including tax hikes for solving America's debt crisis. It sounded like a lie to me at the time, so I looked it up!
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As the Beltway politicians try to figure out how they will raise the debt ceiling and for how long, most voters oppose including tax hikes in the deal.
Just 34% think a tax hike should be included in any legislation to raise the debt ceiling. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% disagree and say it should not.
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As the Beltway politicians try to figure out how they will raise the debt ceiling and for how long, most voters oppose including tax hikes in the deal.
Just 34% think a tax hike should be included in any legislation to raise the debt ceiling. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 55% disagree and say it should not.
Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Then only reason (maybe no only, but you understand) ALL of us don't lie, is that we have a penalty for lying.... Loss of job, jail, loss of family (divorce, etc.), what penalty does he have?
Since 99% (another fictitious number that is unsubstantiated with real scientific proof) of the media won't report on any of his or almost anyone on the left, when they "misspeak", what harm could become of them?
No penalty, no changing
Since 99% (another fictitious number that is unsubstantiated with real scientific proof) of the media won't report on any of his or almost anyone on the left, when they "misspeak", what harm could become of them?
No penalty, no changing
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Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
His lies won't matter in 2013!
Just hold on.....we'll get there!
Just hold on.....we'll get there!
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Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
I have to disagree. There are those of us who try our best to always tell the truth, not because of some penalty for lying, but because it is simply the right thing to do. In my opinion, most people believe that everyone else is pretty much like them. Those who believe that the ends justify the means, and that all's fair as long as you get your way, justify their own bad behavior by saying that everyone is the same way. Do unto others before they have the chance to do unto you. It's a very self-centered approach to life. Obama has no problem lying through his teeth because that is the calibre of person he surrounds himself with, and they all feed off of each other. Lie down with dogs...Teamless wrote:Then only reason (maybe no only, but you understand) ALL of us don't lie, is that we have a penalty for lying.... Loss of job, jail, loss of family (divorce, etc.), what penalty does he have?
Since 99% (another fictitious number that is unsubstantiated with real scientific proof) of the media won't report on any of his or almost anyone on the left, when they "misspeak", what harm could become of them?
No penalty, no changing
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Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Joseph Goebbels – the Reich Minister of Propaganda in Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945, and one of Adolph Hitler’s closest associates and most devout followers – wrote the following:
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
What he verbalized, Mr. Obama lives as a personal creed. The proverbial leopard cannot change his spots; he is a liar by choice, by character, and by intent. That will not change, short of a rebirth (which is unlikely as he has, evidently, lied about that already, too).
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
What he verbalized, Mr. Obama lives as a personal creed. The proverbial leopard cannot change his spots; he is a liar by choice, by character, and by intent. That will not change, short of a rebirth (which is unlikely as he has, evidently, lied about that already, too).
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Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Politifact would say different
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Not to mention the fact rassmussen has a history of biased polls
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Not to mention the fact rassmussen has a history of biased polls
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Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
I agree with you, and that is why I tried to do the (Warhammer wrote:There are those of us who try our best to always tell the truth, not because of some penalty for lying, but because it is simply the right thing to do.
). I don't lie because it is the right thing to do as well, but my point, as you gathered was he is a compulsive liar and with no penalty to him, why not? (his thought, not mine)Teamless wrote:maybe no only, but you understand
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Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
not sure you can say that without also saying that ALL POLLS can be biased and many are - on BOTH sides of ALL issues - many polls are made to prove a point, whereas the polls SHOULD be done to find a result and not fit a perspective.loadedliberal wrote:Not to mention the fact rassmussen has a history of biased polls
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Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
They didn't poll me. If htey had I would have been on the side of CUT THE SPENDING - DON"T RAISE TAXES!
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Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
He's a politician. That's what politicians get paid to do.How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Ref, it's like when an assistant coach tells his HC that he didn't say whatever it was he said that got his butt flagged. Everyone knows he's guilty as sin but he's still going to lie about it.
Psalm 91:2
Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Same way one gets to Carnegie Hall. Practice, practice, practice.How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
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All guns have at least two safeties. One's digital, one's cognitive. In other words - keep the digit off the trigger until ready to fire, and THINK. Some guns also have mechanical safeties on top of those. But if the first two don't work, the mechanical ones aren't guaranteed. - me
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All guns have at least two safeties. One's digital, one's cognitive. In other words - keep the digit off the trigger until ready to fire, and THINK. Some guns also have mechanical safeties on top of those. But if the first two don't work, the mechanical ones aren't guaranteed. - me
Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Warhammer wrote:I have to disagree. There are those of us who try our best to always tell the truth, not because of some penalty for lying, but because it is simply the right thing to do. In my opinion, most people believe that everyone else is pretty much like them. Those who believe that the ends justify the means, and that all's fair as long as you get your way, justify their own bad behavior by saying that everyone is the same way. Do unto others before they have the chance to do unto you. It's a very self-centered approach to life. Obama has no problem lying through his teeth because that is the calibre of person he surrounds himself with, and they all feed off of each other. Lie down with dogs...Teamless wrote:Then only reason (maybe no only, but you understand) ALL of us don't lie, is that we have a penalty for lying.... Loss of job, jail, loss of family (divorce, etc.), what penalty does he have?
Since 99% (another fictitious number that is unsubstantiated with real scientific proof) of the media won't report on any of his or almost anyone on the left, when they "misspeak", what harm could become of them?
No penalty, no changing

Doesn't mean I've never lied, or that I won't again... incredible how something so destructive can be part of the instinct for self-preservation! It does mean that I try very hard to be truthful, even when it hurts. I've found it leads to greater trust in every relationship, and it also helps with my occasional memory lapses - if I always strive to tell the truth, I don't have to remember which version of the story I've told to which person.

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All guns have at least two safeties. One's digital, one's cognitive. In other words - keep the digit off the trigger until ready to fire, and THINK. Some guns also have mechanical safeties on top of those. But if the first two don't work, the mechanical ones aren't guaranteed. - me
KA5RLA
All guns have at least two safeties. One's digital, one's cognitive. In other words - keep the digit off the trigger until ready to fire, and THINK. Some guns also have mechanical safeties on top of those. But if the first two don't work, the mechanical ones aren't guaranteed. - me
Re: How Does Obama Lie So Boldly?
Because a pathological liar believes his own lies....
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