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Beiruty
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Re: Modifications to guns bad?

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you are supposed to shoot the BG in the legs not in the torso. Thus, you need to have a more accurate weapon! :biggrinjester:
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Re: Modifications to guns bad?

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Beiruty wrote:you are supposed to shoot the BG in the legs not in the torso. Thus, you need to have a more accurate weapon! :biggrinjester:
Ok, we will change it from COM (Center of Mass) to COL (Center of Leg) ...


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Re: Modifications to guns bad?

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Beiruty wrote:you are supposed to shoot the BG in the legs not in the torso. Thus, you need to have a more accurate weapon! :biggrinjester:
Actually, this sounds a little bizarre, but it is rooted in medical truth. Let me start by saying I have 25 years experience as an RN, 17 of those years in the ER. I have also been a family nurse practitioner for the last 5 years. The pelvis supports the upright body. The legs depend on the pelvic integrity to support them. I often see people who come to the hospital with broken hips. I do medical clearances on them for surgery, and then we follow in the consultant role. Many of these people had their hip break before they hit the ground...it is what caused them to fall. They were simply walking/standing/whatever, and the femoral neck of their femur broke. They dropped like a sack of flour because they no long had that support. It is not a case that they walked a bit, and then went down...they went down immediately. They assumed they broke their hip when they fell, but it was the other way around.

OK. Apply that to the BG. You shoot him in the COM, and he may keep coming at you. He may even, as recently shown in Tennesse, take your gun and kill you with it after being shot a couple of times. The obvious fix for this is to place one in the T, in the head, where you will instantly cease brain communication with the rest of the body. He will drop like a sack of flour. Factor in the fact that you are about to alter your life, change it forever, change the lives of your family and his family, maybe be charged with murder, maybe be murdered, the huge adrenaline dump...and so on, and then decide how easy that head shot may be. Two to the chest, one to the head, two to the chest, one to the head. Sounds relatively easy, but you are doing it to a moving object, rapidly closing the space between the two of you, who intends to do you great bodily harm.

Now, envision that wide space formed by the pelvis. Even moving, it would not be hard to hit..at least not as hard, IMHO. If you hit the pelvis or either femur with a JHP round, you are going to put him out of the fight dang quick. There will be a lot of crying and screaming as this maggot realizes that the pain he wanted to inflict on you really hurts when inflicted on him. He may even bleed to death if you hit the right artery. Therein lies the only real problem. If you shoot someone, and they do not die, then they and/or their family is going to try to make you pay for their care for the rest of their life. If you are rock solid right in your decisions, and have (hopefully) a little proof for the police, then your lawyer will probably get you cleared of the civil stuff. I am not trying to sound callus, and I have never had to really hurt someone in my whole life...but you have to make a decision before you leave the house. I know we all say, "I a fully prepared to pull the trigger and take someone's life if need be. That is why I have brought myself to this point and why I carry a lethal weapon". What happens if your brain just won't let you do it, like the soldiers discussed in Dave Grossman's book, "On Killing"? You prepare for this, you train for this...and then you just can not take another person's life, even if they are intending to take yours. How about if you know you can take them down, put them out of action, and maybe not have to kill them. It is just something to think about.

As for me, I intend to take two shots to the chest and then one to the head if need be. That is my decision, and I pray I have the physical and mental capabilites, under stress and duress, to do what I need to.

We can have a lot of fun in this forum, we can learn a lot. We can discuss and share philosophies and approaches. What is hidden underneath the surface of all of this is that each of us has decided we can be a killer if need be. Very sobering! I simply offer the above as one more data point to be entered into your collection of knowledge.

Some of you are military, retired or otherwise, and you have had to take another man's life. God Bless you for your service, your courage, and your sacrifice. I pray that God eases and heals your minds of any angst and turmoil you might have. I pray that none of the rest of us on this forum ever have to find out what it is like.

Thanks for the reading of such a long and preachy post.

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