Replace Self Defense Ammunition

[bat1]

However, I do have a problem with using ammo that has been repeatedly chambered and unloaded from a pistol because of the risk of bullet setback.

Humm, I have never heard of this

I will researching this, very cool, thanks

Wow, This is why I love this user forum, I learn sooo much


BAT

[johnson0317]

One day at PSC, I decided to shoot it and load new rounds. None of the rounds I had been carrying shot normally, and two of them left their bullets lodged in the barrel. The fresh rounds fired without any issues.

How did you get the bullets that were lodged in the barrel out? I have heard several, less-than-impressive, stories about that brand of ammo. I have not shot any of my SD stuff, but none of it is more than six months old. When it hits about 18 months, I might shoot it off and replace it.

RJ

If you haven't shot any of your SD ammo, how do you know it will function properly in your pistol?

Well, if I do shoot my SD ammo, then I won't have to worry about it functioning properly in my pistol...cause it don't fire the second time. I suppose I could get another box, but then you will have gotten me to worrying about whether or not it will fire in my pistol, and I will go and shoot that off too!

Please, come on...I bought the brand of SD ammo I bought because it is supposed to work well in my pistol. I do my research, and I belong to the XDTalk forums because my EDC, and my HD weapons are both XDm. I see what has worked well for other users, and I trust their reporting on it.

(Pawpaw, you are getting soft in the head)

RJ

[bat1]

Please, come on...I bought the brand of SD ammo I bought because it is supposed to work well in my pistol. I do my research, and I belong to the XDTalk forums because my EDC, and my HD weapons are both XDm. I see what has worked well for other users, and I trust their reporting on it.

(Pawpaw, you are getting soft in the head)

RJ

If you have ANY SD Ammo, and you ONLY expect it to work when you need it, I, and everyone I know, highly suggest you run some through your gun, you just never know if there is a niche or a notch on your gun that would not chamber the type of ammo you using Most SD ammo is designed a bit different. IT may be designed for you gun, BUT unless you run some through it, you never know, if something on your gun is just a bit different ..

And, if your life is on the line is NOT the time to find that out


Good luck, BAT

[MoJo]

Do not polish brass cases with Brasso etc. Don't worry about tarnish. .

Why Not use polish with Brasso ?

I have some that tarnish, and when I clean the gun, I polish the ammo, they Looks pretty

I really polish, that thinking the tarnish would rub off in the gun ?


I'm confused, I had always thought it was not good to use tarnish ammo

BAT

The ammonia (same stuff that's in copper removing bore cleaner) will weaken and make brass brittle if you just have to polish your ammo use something without ammonia like Flitz.

[Ed4032]

I've shot ammo that is thirty plus years old and had no problems with it. Now I don't carry thirty year old ammo for SD, but what I do carry is several years old. Occasionally I shoot some and it works just fine. By the way, the "set back" problem is an urban myth. Shoot it and you will see. It works just fine. Don't make this more complicated than it is.

[Jumping Frog]

I've shot ammo that is thirty plus years old and had no problems with it. Now I don't carry thirty year old ammo for SD, but what I do carry is several years old. Occasionally I shoot some and it works just fine. By the way, the "set back" problem is an urban myth. Shoot it and you will see. It works just fine. Don't make this more complicated than it is.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Are you a reloader, by chance? If you are, you'd be aware of how COAL affects chamber pressure. Case volume with COAL is two of the variables used by internal ballistics software like QUICKLOAD to calculate pressure.

[Pawpaw]

One day at PSC, I decided to shoot it and load new rounds. None of the rounds I had been carrying shot normally, and two of them left their bullets lodged in the barrel. The fresh rounds fired without any issues.

How did you get the bullets that were lodged in the barrel out? I have heard several, less-than-impressive, stories about that brand of ammo. I have not shot any of my SD stuff, but none of it is more than six months old. When it hits about 18 months, I might shoot it off and replace it.

RJ

If you haven't shot any of your SD ammo, how do you know it will function properly in your pistol?

Well, if I do shoot my SD ammo, then I won't have to worry about it functioning properly in my pistol...cause it don't fire the second time. I suppose I could get another box, but then you will have gotten me to worrying about whether or not it will fire in my pistol, and I will go and shoot that off too!

Please, come on...I bought the brand of SD ammo I bought because it is supposed to work well in my pistol. I do my research, and I belong to the XDTalk forums because my EDC, and my HD weapons are both XDm. I see what has worked well for other users, and I trust their reporting on it.

(Pawpaw, you are getting soft in the head)

RJ

Oh, I didn't realize you had read about it on the internet. That makes it true and worthy of betting your life on!

I will not carry any gun/ammo combo until I have put at least 100 trouble-free rounds of that ammo through that gun. During such sessions, I HAVE experienced problems which required either 1) a modification to the pistol to allow it to function with that ammo or 2) forget about that ammo and switch to something else.

Yes, such testing is expensive. I happen to feel my life is worth it. Waiting until your life is on the line to find that your weapon jams with your chosen carry ammo will not be a good day.

As for the "soft in the head" thing... Well, the line for people who share that opinion starts somewhere in the next county.

[johnson0317]

OK. Pawpaw...you kind of have me convinced. I will shoot off the ammo I have, but I am not going to buy another 50 rounds and do the same thing, at least not right away. It is too dang expensive. Yeah, opinions are like...no, wait, opinions on the Internet are like...wait, opinions on the Internet are worth what you pay for them...that's it! I can say, however, that I do trust the XDm site I am on. They have an area to review ammo, and there is quite a bit of discussion.

BTW, any ammo can have FTF, FTE, or the like. What worked 100 times may not work on number 101.

That line starts in the next county, only if the next county is Smith County...down by the Cracker Barrel. Look for the signs. (Hope you know you have my respect, sir.)

[Pawpaw]

Just because 100 is my number, there is no reason it needs to be your number also. Do what you are comfortable with. I was just pointing out that it's better to know your weapon/ammo combination works.

Man can not, has not, and will not ever create anything that will never fail. The best thing we can do is test and test to try to minimize those failures. In spite of this, the next time I pull the trigger might be time I need it the most. It might also the time my firing pin breaks, my mag catch breaks and dumps the mag on the ground, or any of 100 other things could go wrong.

I test & check what I can. Everything else is in God's hands.

I was not insulted by what you said. I took it in the lighthearted manner so much of this forum operates. It's all good.

[punkndisorderly]

Usually, I buy one box of whatever carry ammo i'm most interested in. Then I run it to check for proper function and that it shoots to point of aim. If it works, I order several boxes. Run about 100 rounds to check for consistant functioning. Any issues, and I would start over with a new brand/type. That gives me some confidence it'll work if I need it. I make sure i'm not chambering the same round repeatedly, so I don't have setback to worry about.

I burn through the ammo I've been carrying about every six months and open a new box. Since most range ammo is on the weak side, and most defense ammo is on the stout side, it makes sense that problems could happen with one and not the other.

I also try to rotate my magazines, rather than use the same one over and over. That way, the range time gets spread out, and if I start having issues it'll show itself at the range. I also number the mags. If I have a problem, that mag becomes range only.

My two "serious" guns have never had an issue. Eventually they will. To the extent i can make that happen at the range, so it can be corrected, i will. I have had issues with ammo with two of my centerfire pistols. Both just didn't like a certain load.

[speedsix]

Just because 100 is my number, there is no reason it needs to be your number also. Do what you are comfortable with. I was just pointing out that it's better to know your weapon/ammo combination works.

Man can not, has not, and will not ever create anything that will never fail. The best thing we can do is test and test to try to minimize those failures. In spite of this, the next time I pull the trigger might be time I need it the most. It might also the time my firing pin breaks, my mag catch breaks and dumps the mag on the ground, or any of 100 other things could go wrong.

I test & check what I can. Everything else is in God's hands.

I was not insulted by what you said. I took it in the lighthearted manner so much of this forum operates. It's all good.

...that's why God put so many pockets in blue jeans...so we can carry a backup!!!

[GhostTX]

Glad I read this thread. Been awhile since I checked for setback. Couple of rounds definitely needed to go.

[TXCHL7474]

A total cliche but...

Firearm....$500+

High Grade Self Defense Ammo...~$30 per 20 rounds ($1.50 each; a high estimate).

Your life....Priceless.

Lets say that you are super paranoid and cycle through three 20 rd. boxes per year, you are only investing about 25 cents per day on your own protection. That is less than the daily cost of a $500 firearm spread over 5 years.

I would replace that stuff at least once a year. Just blast something interesting....watermelons/neighbor's dog...so you don't feel that those high dollar rounds have gone to waste! By the way, just kidding about the neighbor's dog. Dogs are cool.