employee handbook - wording question...

CHL discussions that do not fit into more specific topics

Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton

User avatar
schufflerbot
Senior Member
Posts: 761
Joined: Thu May 05, 2011 9:03 am
Location: Houston
Contact:

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by schufflerbot »

I agree with canvas... while I will certainly wait and feel out the management here before i engage in any conversations on the subject, I have no intention of completely hiding my interest in firearms.

I have no political agenda behind this, I just like to talk and the topic will inevitably come up at one point or another.

Now, if I bring it up and the CEO tells a story of how his parents were shot and killed or something, I wont ever mention it again... lol
Image
paulhailes
Senior Member
Posts: 482
Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:34 pm

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by paulhailes »

schufflerbot wrote:I agree with canvas... while I will certainly wait and feel out the management here before i engage in any conversations on the subject, I have no intention of completely hiding my interest in firearms.

I have no political agenda behind this, I just like to talk and the topic will inevitably come up at one point or another.

Now, if I bring it up and the CEO tells a story of how his parents were shot and killed or something, I wont ever mention it again... lol
Even if the CEO follows it up with a story of how he never goes anywhere without a gun because of that? :mrgreen:

I am the same way, I like to talk about the things that interest me and it would be hard to not ever mention guns.
User avatar
Beiruty
Senior Member
Posts: 9655
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:22 pm
Location: Allen, Texas

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by Beiruty »

Most of the time Co will never authorize the carry of weapons by their employees simply because of the fear of liability. Of course, when an employee goes postal, Co would say how we should have known or it is beyond our control. CHLer are good guys, however, if a CHLer went nuts and went postal, the Co would go down quick as the it has previous knowledge of CHLer carrying or authorized the carrying.

Just saying what's their point of view.
Beiruty,
United we stand, dispersed we falter
2014: NRA Endowment lifetime member
mlawler
Member
Posts: 77
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:14 pm

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by mlawler »

I work at a small company with 4 other employees, all of them female. My 'employee handbook' prohibits weapons in the workplace but they all know I shoot weekend IDPA/3-gun matches and that I have a CHL. When we had a home invasion in the neighborhood adjacent to our location, my boss MADE me go get my gun and CC it the rest of that day!
speedsix
Senior Member
Posts: 5608
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:39 am

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by speedsix »

...I would never bring the word gun into a workplace where I was an employee...kinda like pokin' a wasp's nest...it only takes one flyin' up at you to ruin your day...or give you effective notice...I would carry constantly and quietly...and noone would ever know it unless it became necessary to use it...too many idiots who are afraid of guns and too many liability-conscious employers...the employee handbook isn't law...better to ask forgiveness than permission doesn't ONLY work with wives...
User avatar
HotLeadSolutions
Senior Member
Posts: 448
Joined: Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:50 pm
Location: Rowlett, TX

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by HotLeadSolutions »

speedsix wrote:...I would never bring the word gun into a workplace where I was an employee...kinda like pokin' a wasp's nest...it only takes one flyin' up at you to ruin your day...or give you effective notice...I would carry constantly and quietly...and noone would ever know it unless it became necessary to use it...too many idiots who are afraid of guns and too many liability-conscious employers...the employee handbook isn't law...better to ask forgiveness than permission doesn't ONLY work with wives...
Speed: You always have such an elogant way of putting things... :tiphat:
Daniel
CHL Instructor
Dallas Concealed Carry
http://www.DallasConcealedCarry.com
speedsix
Senior Member
Posts: 5608
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:39 am

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by speedsix »

...not always...my mouth has often known the taste of toejam... ;-)
johnson0317
Senior Member
Posts: 1047
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:25 pm

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by johnson0317 »

Yeah, try it on one of those little triangle toast thingys...tastes much better.
CHL Received 5/16/11
Proud Member NRA
Proud Member Texas Concealed Handgun Association
Proud Member Second Amendment Foundation
Proud Member of The Truth Squad founded by Tom Gresham. "A lie left unchallenged becomes the truth"
User avatar
ninemm
Senior Member
Posts: 389
Joined: Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:25 pm
Location: Near East Texas

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by ninemm »

After I retired, I went back to work for the same company through a firm that handled the required insurance and engineering firm registration for a year (no personal contract). The second and subsequent years, I formed my own engineering firm and handled my own insurance. The contract I was asked to sign had the standard language about guns in the workplace (on about page 4 of 9) and all that but I carefully amended that page (using exactly the same font and spacing) to allow me to carry (as a CHL holder) and submitted the signed contract (and each page initialed). I guess they never noticed. I know they would terminate the contract and I would no longer be allowed to work for them if some event outed me but my editing of the contract was more of an attempt to prevent a compensatory breach of contract claim.
User avatar
canvasbck
Senior Member
Posts: 1101
Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:45 pm
Location: Alvin

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by canvasbck »

ninemm wrote:After I retired, I went back to work for the same company through a firm that handled the required insurance and engineering firm registration for a year (no personal contract). The second and subsequent years, I formed my own engineering firm and handled my own insurance. The contract I was asked to sign had the standard language about guns in the workplace (on about page 4 of 9) and all that but I carefully amended that page (using exactly the same font and spacing) to allow me to carry (as a CHL holder) and submitted the signed contract (and each page initialed). I guess they never noticed. I know they would terminate the contract and I would no longer be allowed to work for them if some event outed me but my editing of the contract was more of an attempt to prevent a compensatory breach of contract claim.
:clapping: :clapping: Bravo sir.......this is awesome :clapping:
"All bleeding eventually stops.......quit whining!"
speedsix
Senior Member
Posts: 5608
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:39 am

Re: employee handbook - wording question...

Post by speedsix »

ninemm wrote:After I retired, I went back to work for the same company through a firm that handled the required insurance and engineering firm registration for a year (no personal contract). The second and subsequent years, I formed my own engineering firm and handled my own insurance. The contract I was asked to sign had the standard language about guns in the workplace (on about page 4 of 9) and all that but I carefully amended that page (using exactly the same font and spacing) to allow me to carry (as a CHL holder) and submitted the signed contract (and each page initialed). I guess they never noticed. I know they would terminate the contract and I would no longer be allowed to work for them if some event outed me but my editing of the contract was more of an attempt to prevent a compensatory breach of contract claim.
...I LIKE IT!!!...hope you got a SIGNED copy of that contract...shows a lotta backbone...and............stuff...
Post Reply

Return to “General Texas CHL Discussion”