Shooting ourselves in the foot
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Shooting ourselves in the foot
I recently saw my first 51% sign a Blackfinn resturante in The Highlands at Arlington Texas. I commented to the youn lady greeting us about the sign and she relayed a story of a very drunk man looking to get into their place ( which is a club after a certain time ). This gentleman was very rude and disrespectful in regards to the cover charge. During the loud discussion with this drunk man the young lady noticed he was carrying a pistol. Cops were called and the man was removed only to discover he had (had is now the key word) a CHL. Good for her removing a drunk man with a gun. Problem is now no one is allowed to carry in this place even during non-club hours. Please if you are ever in the situation where you may have a drink, leave the gun at home and remind your friends ad well. I feel unique and enlightened to be part of the CHL nation if you will, but idiots like this man tarnish that. I know he will be punished for his oversight and negligence but so will I.
Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
51% has to be posted by law regardless of the incident, if more than 51% of the business revenue is from booze sales.
A 30.06 sign is the correct notice to ban carrying concealed on the premises.
A 30.06 sign is the correct notice to ban carrying concealed on the premises.
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Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
Welcome to the forum!
While I agree that guns and alcohol don't mix, this drunk CHLer has nothing to do with the place being off limits now. Him being drunk does not make it a 51% location.
If the place is truly a 51% location it was illegal to carry their prior to this incident.
If it is not a 51% location unless they properly post a 30.06 it is still legal to carry there.
What the 51% sign means is that the establishment derives 51% or more of its profit from sales of alcohol for on site consumption. If they do not and they do not post a proper 30.06 sign you can still carry there.
While I agree that guns and alcohol don't mix, this drunk CHLer has nothing to do with the place being off limits now. Him being drunk does not make it a 51% location.
If the place is truly a 51% location it was illegal to carry their prior to this incident.
If it is not a 51% location unless they properly post a 30.06 it is still legal to carry there.
What the 51% sign means is that the establishment derives 51% or more of its profit from sales of alcohol for on site consumption. If they do not and they do not post a proper 30.06 sign you can still carry there.
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Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
Fixed it for yaBeiruty wrote:51% has to be posted by law regardless of the incident, if more than 51% of the business revenue is from booze sales for on site consumption.
A 30.06 sign is the correct notice to ban carrying concealed on the premises.

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Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
This.Beiruty wrote:51% has to be posted by law regardless of the incident, if more than 51% of the business revenue is from booze sales.
A 30.06 sign is the correct notice to ban carrying concealed on the premises.
All the same, it is most likely better not to mix alcohol and guns, whether in public or at home. There are just too many things that can go wrong. Even so, I'm not innocent myself. I have consumed an alcohol drink with dinner while carrying before. I was definitely not intoxicated. I don't like even a tiny buzz. But, even if it didn't really interfere with my judgement, it most likely would have interfered with my reaction times.
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Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
According to TABC they are a 51% location.
So, as I stated above while the drunk CHLer is not good publicity he had no part in making this establishment off limits for CHLers.
So, as I stated above while the drunk CHLer is not good publicity he had no part in making this establishment off limits for CHLers.
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Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
No amount of signage is going to fix stupid! That's an announcement.
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The only place several CHLs and I drink alcohol while armed is after a big lunch, once a year, at church we get this teensy weensy sip of wine in a glass half empty which is way smaller than a shot glass and hardly enough unleavened bread to make a cow chew twice, and then we sober up while washing each others' feet and singing and shaking hands.
So far, no one got shot in the foot, they just got washed ....
So far, no one got shot in the foot, they just got washed ....

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Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
The Annoyed Man wrote:This.Beiruty wrote:51% has to be posted by law regardless of the incident, if more than 51% of the business revenue is from booze sales.
A 30.06 sign is the correct notice to ban carrying concealed on the premises.
All the same, it is most likely better not to mix alcohol and guns, whether in public or at home. There are just too many things that can go wrong. Even so, I'm not innocent myself. I have consumed an alcohol drink with dinner while carrying before. I was definitely not intoxicated. I don't like even a tiny buzz. But, even if it didn't really interfere with my judgement, it most likely would have interfered with my reaction times.
...the last thing I want my grand jury to hear is that "he'd been drinking"...that would really ruin my "choirboy image" around these parts...hey, wait...maybe "choirboy" ain't so good, neither...
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I think that I'd need more than a half shot of wine to get into foot washin' and singin'...but that's just me. See any snakes?RPB wrote:The only place several CHLs and I drink alcohol while armed is after a big lunch, once a year, at church we get this teensy weensy sip of wine in a glass half empty which is way smaller than a shot glass and hardly enough unleavened bread to make a cow chew twice, and then we sober up while washing each others' feet and singing and shaking hands.
So far, no one got shot in the foot, they just got washed ....

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This was moved, as it was posted in the wrong section.
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Good eye! Thank you.Crossfire wrote:This was moved, as it was posted in the wrong section.
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That's true even if someone doesn't have a CHL. Can someone explain the logic behind making her exempt from the 51% rule? It sounds like very bad judgement by the legislators. And now the proof is on camera.The Annoyed Man wrote:This.Beiruty wrote:51% has to be posted by law regardless of the incident, if more than 51% of the business revenue is from booze sales.
A 30.06 sign is the correct notice to ban carrying concealed on the premises.
All the same, it is most likely better not to mix alcohol and guns, whether in public or at home. There are just too many things that can go wrong.
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Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
Last Rattler I saw was years ago behind the church off I59 in Houston out on the playground some kids found a nest of them.Oldgringo wrote:I think that I'd need more than a half shot of wine to get into foot washin' and singin'...but that's just me. See any snakes?RPB wrote:The only place several CHLs and I drink alcohol while armed is after a big lunch, once a year, at church we get this teensy weensy sip of wine in a glass half empty which is way smaller than a shot glass and hardly enough unleavened bread to make a cow chew twice, and then we sober up while washing each others' feet and singing and shaking hands.
So far, no one got shot in the foot, they just got washed ....
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Re: Shooting ourselves in the foot
Oldgringo wrote:I think that I'd need more than a half shot of wine to get into foot washin' and singin'...but that's just me. See any snakes?


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