Its mostly young people because they have less life experience and, especially if they have been recently "educated" (indoctrinated) at a university, they are MUCH more easily persuaded that Marx' theories and variations of his theories are somehow not a pile of stinking garbage. I also like what TAM said: do the math on how many people are NOT involved in these "protests" vs how many are...in fact, why don't they look at a ratio of these leftist protestors vs. Tea Party rally attendees? Oh, yeah, that's right...it wouldn't make for a good "viva la revolucion" moment on TV, would it? Anyone who falls for this being some kind of serious movement among the American people that aught to be respected needs to take a good hard look at their current mindset. I ain't calling anyone particular out, just stating an opinion not in line with the mass media...its still okay to have those, right?mamabearCali wrote:You know those in the crowd look mostly young adult-ish. I don't see many dads with three kids in the crowd--why would that be--oh yes they are out there making a living as they can. Ahh the naivety of youth and lovely irresponsibility. Like putting more taxes on the rich is going to fix the job situation here in America. I don't think this will be anything more than a glorified holiday for these guys. It is not the same as the arab countries--we have the ability to make political changes to our country. Yes, these are VERY hard times, but you still have options here in this country. Not for long though if we keep the incompetent people in power we have now.
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I was going to totally ignore their stupid rallies until I saw signs about "Student Loans." So I looked up what in the world this had to do with student loans and found that they are also rallying for a blanket bailout of student loans.
Seriously?
I worked HARD to pay off my loans, I graduated 5 years ago with $58,000 in Student Loans, $6000 in a car loan, and then married into my wife's $8000 car loan. We've paid everything off as of May because we made it a priority. We don't make a lot of money but we lived BELOW our means, didn't take on new debt, and allocated all our free money to paying off our loans. I understand the legitimate hardship endured by those who have lost their jobs, but those entitled bratty college kids who want something for nothing need to learn how to manage their money wisely and work hard, DELAY gratification! What a groundbreaking concept! Too bad they don't get taught that in school.
Seriously?
I worked HARD to pay off my loans, I graduated 5 years ago with $58,000 in Student Loans, $6000 in a car loan, and then married into my wife's $8000 car loan. We've paid everything off as of May because we made it a priority. We don't make a lot of money but we lived BELOW our means, didn't take on new debt, and allocated all our free money to paying off our loans. I understand the legitimate hardship endured by those who have lost their jobs, but those entitled bratty college kids who want something for nothing need to learn how to manage their money wisely and work hard, DELAY gratification! What a groundbreaking concept! Too bad they don't get taught that in school.
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People were wondering where the perpetual protestors went after Obama was elected. I think we found them. Either that or Soros finally put them back on the payroll.
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Well now, that makes sense, even if it is still a bunch of junk...do you have a link to that info about the student loan bailouts thing?knotquiteawake wrote:I was going to totally ignore their stupid rallies until I saw signs about "Student Loans." So I looked up what in the world this had to do with student loans and found that they are also rallying for a blanket bailout of student loans.
Seriously?
I worked HARD to pay off my loans, I graduated 5 years ago with $58,000 in Student Loans, $6000 in a car loan, and then married into my wife's $8000 car loan. We've paid everything off as of May because we made it a priority. We don't make a lot of money but we lived BELOW our means, didn't take on new debt, and allocated all our free money to paying off our loans. I understand the legitimate hardship endured by those who have lost their jobs, but those entitled bratty college kids who want something for nothing need to learn how to manage their money wisely and work hard, DELAY gratification! What a groundbreaking concept! Too bad they don't get taught that in school.
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Dear Protestors,
If you hate "evil corporations" then start your own business. Take your life savings and sink it into your business. Make sure it's a sole proprietorship or a partnership so you're not a hypocrite.
If you want to avoid foreclosure then don't take out a mortgage to buy a house far above your means. Buy a more modest home and pay cash. If you can't afford that, you can borrow from your friends. There's also loan sharks if you don't like the way banks do business. Or rent an apartment if you're not ready for the responsibility of home ownership.
On the subject of student loans, maybe you should have worked hard and studied instead of partying. The loans were for tuition not those keggers you had every weekend. You signed the loan papers and now it's time to pay the taxpayers back for subsidizing your education so you could be come a productive member of society. Cowboy up! No whining.
Meanwhile, get your lazy butts out of the street. Stop getting in the way of people who are trying to get to work so they can pay their bills. And the taxes you mooch off. If you want to protest, go camp in front of Obama's office. You elected him and the chickens came home to roost. How about them apples?
Love and Kisses,
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If you hate "evil corporations" then start your own business. Take your life savings and sink it into your business. Make sure it's a sole proprietorship or a partnership so you're not a hypocrite.
If you want to avoid foreclosure then don't take out a mortgage to buy a house far above your means. Buy a more modest home and pay cash. If you can't afford that, you can borrow from your friends. There's also loan sharks if you don't like the way banks do business. Or rent an apartment if you're not ready for the responsibility of home ownership.
On the subject of student loans, maybe you should have worked hard and studied instead of partying. The loans were for tuition not those keggers you had every weekend. You signed the loan papers and now it's time to pay the taxpayers back for subsidizing your education so you could be come a productive member of society. Cowboy up! No whining.
Meanwhile, get your lazy butts out of the street. Stop getting in the way of people who are trying to get to work so they can pay their bills. And the taxes you mooch off. If you want to protest, go camp in front of Obama's office. You elected him and the chickens came home to roost. How about them apples?
Love and Kisses,
Mom and Dad
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I'm a 20-something year old that you won't find protesting.
Heck, I won't own a home until I have a first or second kid. I'd rather pay the extra $100 in rent a month than mortgage to not have to worry about lawn care, the house losing value, or any of the other nuances of owning a house. (Not to mention the freedom of changing apartment complexes at the end of the contact if I wish.)
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¿Qué? wrote:Dear Protestors,
If you hate "evil corporations" then start your own business. Take your life savings and sink it into your business. Make sure it's a sole proprietorship or a partnership so you're not a hypocrite.
If you want to avoid foreclosure then don't take out a mortgage to buy a house far above your means. Buy a more modest home and pay cash. If you can't afford that, you can borrow from your friends. There's also loan sharks if you don't like the way banks do business. Or rent an apartment if you're not ready for the responsibility of home ownership.
On the subject of student loans, maybe you should have worked hard and studied instead of partying. The loans were for tuition not those keggers you had every weekend. You signed the loan papers and now it's time to pay the taxpayers back for subsidizing your education so you could be come a productive member of society. Cowboy up! No whining.
Meanwhile, get your lazy butts out of the street. Stop getting in the way of people who are trying to get to work so they can pay their bills. And the taxes you mooch off. If you want to protest, go camp in front of Obama's office. You elected him and the chickens came home to roost. How about them apples?
Love and Kisses,
Mom and Dad


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This is what I found that finally gave me an idea of why people are holding up signs about their student loans:Heartland Patriot wrote:Well now, that makes sense, even if it is still a bunch of junk...do you have a link to that info about the student loan bailouts thing?knotquiteawake wrote:I was going to totally ignore their stupid rallies until I saw signs about "Student Loans." So I looked up what in the world this had to do with student loans and found that they are also rallying for a blanket bailout of student loans.
Seriously?
I worked HARD to pay off my loans, I graduated 5 years ago with $58,000 in Student Loans, $6000 in a car loan, and then married into my wife's $8000 car loan. We've paid everything off as of May because we made it a priority. We don't make a lot of money but we lived BELOW our means, didn't take on new debt, and allocated all our free money to paying off our loans. I understand the legitimate hardship endured by those who have lost their jobs, but those entitled bratty college kids who want something for nothing need to learn how to manage their money wisely and work hard, DELAY gratification! What a groundbreaking concept! Too bad they don't get taught that in school.
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chasfm11 wrote:I thought that sound bite where Watters asked what a protestor would do if a job were offered to her was interesting. A lot of the protestors apparently are of the "hand out" persuasion.

This will only hurt a little. What comes next, more so.
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I am a 21 year old college student. You will never fine me at a Socialist Protest like the one in New York. Unlike most people my age i research and learn about things on my own. I don't trust the media enough to take anything they say as the truth. I believe that continued taxation on "evil corporations" and Unions in the Governments pocket is whats driving all businesses and jobs away from the US. Don't even get me started on Illegal Immigration or "Gun Control". I am very passionate about both of these Issues. The key is people need to educate themselves!!! Most young people are to lazy or too "busy". They like to spend their weekends partying. 

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There is a rally scheduled for tomorrow in downtown Houston. Occupy Houston Supposedly the organizer's website has instructions on how to deal with tear gas. I don't remember there ever being this type of information on any of the Tea Party websites.
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You know they all look pretty well dressed and well fed. There is certainly reason to protest things in this country, just not the things they are protesting.
The student loan thing is really annoying. I can understand their frustration they (like I) were often told they had 0 options but to go to college (by all trusted authorities in their lives at early adulthood) and to do that it required student loans, but now they can't get a job and have all this debt and a piece of paper that is often not worth very much. Congratulations, you get to learn things the hard way, that is life. Do what you can, pay what you can. Stop crying about it. The gov't is not going to bail you out and if it did the strings attached to such a bailout would make your life miserable. Better to suck it up, do whatsoever you must to get out of debt, and then say lesson learned--don't tell your kids they have to get into massive debt to make you happy.
The student loan thing is really annoying. I can understand their frustration they (like I) were often told they had 0 options but to go to college (by all trusted authorities in their lives at early adulthood) and to do that it required student loans, but now they can't get a job and have all this debt and a piece of paper that is often not worth very much. Congratulations, you get to learn things the hard way, that is life. Do what you can, pay what you can. Stop crying about it. The gov't is not going to bail you out and if it did the strings attached to such a bailout would make your life miserable. Better to suck it up, do whatsoever you must to get out of debt, and then say lesson learned--don't tell your kids they have to get into massive debt to make you happy.
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I bet most if not all have Liberal Arts degrees.mamabearCali wrote:now they can't get a job and have all this debt and a piece of paper that is often not worth very much.
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