ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun regs

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Re: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun reg

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bowserb wrote:It's a shame that conservatives and gun owners don't have eager and determined investigators and reporters (plus newspapers, magazines and TV happy to take up the cause)--like those who brought down Nixon--on this case. There should today be people going to prison and the president impeached or otherwise forced to resign. When compared to Fast and Furious, Watergate and associated activities of "All the King's Men" seem like little more than fraternity pranks. Instead, the extreme left continues in its mission of converting the United States of America into USSR 2.0.
If this case got the media attention that it deserves, it would be bigger than Watergate. Facilitating the otherwise illegal transfer of guns to drug cartels in order to have them traced from Mexican crime scenes to US gun stores in order to argue for more gun controls seems like it is much more serious than the Watergate burglery, especially when two or more of those guns was found at the sight of the gunfight were Agent Brian Terry was killed. Also, now that this has come out, why hasn't the Mexican government lodged diplomatic protests with the US? Heaven knows, they complain enough about our Second Amendment rights. I am beginning to wonder if the highest levels of the Mexican government were really in the dark about this or if they are co-conspirators. All of this is just a little too neat. The Mexican President comes to the US and asks that we put in very restrictive gun laws and then the Fast and Furious operation allows a bunch of guns to "walk" not just in the SW but in other parts of the US, like Florida, (something that has not gotten much attention). It doesn't take a bloodhound to smell the dead rats in this set-up. :headscratch

P.S. Maybe we should openly ask the politicians what they want to do to us that makes them so afraid for us to have guns.

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Re: ATF used "Fast and Furious" to make the case for gun reg

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I think the main reason Fast and Furious isn't getting the attention it deserves is that it's complicated. I can't count the numbers of errors or mistakes even conservative talk radio and gun people have made in describing/reporting. Another reason is that people are different than they were during Watergate. If it doesn't involve sex, infidelity, or some sort of deviant behavior (molestation, prostitutes, etc.) it lacks the "reality TV" titillation to interest viewers. Lastly, people are so used to, and feel so powerless because of, the cycle of criminal activity in government by both parties that they just tune out.

Does anyone really think that anyone involved will face real penalties. I see promotions in exchange for silence, maybe a few mid to high level resignations. Those who resign and take the fall will get consulting or lobbying gigs at twice the salary as a reward. They'll get replaced with people just as bad or worse.
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